Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elftor
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. There's a good case for deletion, but the keep voters are persuasive. All things taken into consideration, there aren't enough people taking part in this discussion for this to be a binding debate. Mackensen (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Elftor
Dead webcomic that, while still up, was updated irregularly and was never very popular. Doesn't meet criteria for notability either. Don Diego(Talk) 19:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- This has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Webcomics/Deletion. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 19:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep It's not true that it was "never very popular". If you have any doubt, I get 159,000 Google hits. This after two years of inactivity. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 19:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Google is a highly inaccurate method of finding an object's popularity. There have already been many cases, also on Wikipedia, where noteworthy articles were deleted simply for "lack of Google hits," and likewise, where useless articles were kept simply for having a high Google count. Don Diego(Talk) 21:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, Google, along with Alexa, frequently are not accurate indicators. However, it is no argument to say that because we have deleted articles that score well that we always, or even usually, do. Google hits in particular are often unreliable because of they way they are conducted. Loose choice of search terms, in particular, is a problem. However, in this case, the search is simple; the term "Elftor" has essentially no other meaning except that which is derived from this comic. And yet, 150k results. I see your point, but must reject it in this case. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 22:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Google is a highly inaccurate method of finding an object's popularity. There have already been many cases, also on Wikipedia, where noteworthy articles were deleted simply for "lack of Google hits," and likewise, where useless articles were kept simply for having a high Google count. Don Diego(Talk) 21:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: Insufficient evidence given for deletion, and per Abe's comments. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: Doesn't meet guidelines. Igor the Lion(Roar!) 13:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, this doesn't meet WP:WEB. I liked reading this comic a few years ago, but it doesn't appear that there are any independent, third-party reliable sources for this article. Comixpedia.org is the place for webcomics people like but there aren't any reliable sources for; we have higher standards for accuracy than that. (This article has already ben transwikied to comixpedia). -- Dragonfiend 19:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete- yet more pointless webcomic-cruft. Doesn't meet WP:WEB. Reyk YO! 01:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Dragonfiend -- No Guru 19:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete I don't think this is what Wikipedia is for. Elftor 20:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.