Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Either Oregon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 03:41, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Either Oregon

Band fails WP:MUSIC criteria. As stated in the article, it was created "mid to late 2005." And yields no Google results. — Kjammer ⌂ 04:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete failing criteria on WP:MUSIC -- (☺drini♫|☎) 06:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

"Please see www.myspace.com/eitheroregon for web results and verification as to the existence of this band. As it is now October, the time frame of 'mid to late 2005' is still applicable, referring most specifically to the months of August and September.

Just because an article is about something new doesn't mean it should be ignored or removed! While this band has yet to exceed your wp:music criteria, shouldn't there be some time given to allow them to carve out their own notability before outright rejecting them from Wikipedia? As the article states, they are merely a few months old at best. Is newness an automatic prejudice of worthlessness?

Should not Wikipedia contain articles which document the emergence of an event, pheonomena, cultural idea, or, in this case, a group of musicians attempting to cut through a slew of cheap commercializm to create -- not for itself but for its principles, aesthetic and ideals -- an element of notibility in a field which, at its heart, shares nothing with the instances of corporatized vagary which meet your wp: music standards?

-- posted and edited by the anonymous creator of the article, who did not know at the time that registering his email address with Wikipedia would automatically elevate him to a higher class, but is nevertheless attempting to break through that ceiling by reputably and honorably posting his thoughts regarding the deletion of said article."

• Delete. The Myspace web site reveals almost nothing about the band except that they have one concert scheduled in their hometown next month. The band has all the time it needs to carve out its own notability and then have an article about them accepted into Wikipedia, whether they need one month, one year, or ten years to meet the WP:MUSIC criteria -- the article can be created at that time once there is evidence they are notable; they are not being rejected permanently, just for now since they are not notable yet. A musical artist can qualify under the WP:MUSIC criteria without necessarily succumbing to commercialism. Finally, comments such as "Either Oregon is a musical group that originated in Portland sometime in mid to late 2005, though the exact date and location is a much debated topic in some intellectual circles. The exact lineup is unknown ...." (emphasis added) may be intended to create an aura of mystery, but they mostly make it look like the group is unverifiable and that the writer of the article doesn't know much about the topic. --Metropolitan90 06:34, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

• Sorry dude, Wikipedia is a reference for things already notable, and while plenty of people agree with your arguement, more people do not. We go over this with pretty much every band on the site. Delete until they become notable, at which point I would hope they aren't too bitter to recreate their page. --CastAStone 06:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete for all the same reasons as above but good job stating your case plainly and calmly. I look forward to when the band is able to be included here. Qaz ^(talk) 07:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per nomination. utcursch | talk 07:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - nn CLW 12:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete When you're famous, you'll be back! Marcus22 14:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.