Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egan Junior High School
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 17:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Egan Junior High School
No indication of notability. Looking, I can find no non-trivial reliable outside coverage of this school. (Originally prodded, but better go the AfD route since it was prodded and de-prodded a few months ago.) Pan Dan 23:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep but cleanup. 1. It's one of the only schools in the Bay Area that offers two Spanish classes, and in California, this is of no small importance. 2. Their band and chorus have regularly performed at Disneyland. 3. They won the California Distinguished School award in 1988. 4. It has won the award for highest Standardized Testing and Reporting test scores in California numerous times. Highfructosecornsyrup 01:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Got nontrivial outside sources to show these attributes are truly notable? Pan Dan 14:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Very weak keep if properly sourced; delete and redirect to Los Altos School District otherwise. There are some claims of notability, but some mean nothing (such as frequently performing at Disneyland or getting a Distinguished School award, both honors that are given tohundreds of CA schools), and the ones that matter (e.g. getting the highest STAR scores) are unverified. -- Kicking222 01:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep based on significant awards: Los Altos Town Crier indicates Egan Junior High School was named #1 top junior high school in the state for three years in a row. --Howrealisreal 02:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- ...and you get the award for finding a source. Thank you. I'm still not convinced the article should be kept on that basis though, as it's a local write-up and there's not much there to build a Wikipedia article on. Pan Dan 14:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Conditional (weak) Keep if properly sourced. Article's depth is fairly impressive, though it's in need of some cleanup. California Distinguished School and performing at Disneyland aren't terribly noteworthy per Kicking222, but being ranked first in the state for three years running is an indication of at least regional noteworthiness, provided that multiple independent reliable sources can be found to back that. (I note that Howrealisreal has already found one, a good start.) Shimeru 07:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Don't you mean "major reduction" instead of "some cleanup"? I agree that the article is very detailed, but 90% of those details are either unverifiable or non-notable (i.e. they're likely published nowhere or only on the school's website). The major exception is the blurb on Ardis Egan, which if properly sourced should be in an article on the man perhaps but not the school. Take out all the stuff that doesn't belong, and we'd be left with a directory entry. Pan Dan 19:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, yes. But I usually find "cleanup" or "some cleanup" adequately covers those concerns for AfD purposes. I'd perform the cleanup myself, but I don't want to make that sort of large-scale edit to the article while it's up for AfD, given my vote (since I have no sources to add). Shimeru 20:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Don't you mean "major reduction" instead of "some cleanup"? I agree that the article is very detailed, but 90% of those details are either unverifiable or non-notable (i.e. they're likely published nowhere or only on the school's website). The major exception is the blurb on Ardis Egan, which if properly sourced should be in an article on the man perhaps but not the school. Take out all the stuff that doesn't belong, and we'd be left with a directory entry. Pan Dan 19:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Highfructosecornsyrup (talk • contribs). - Mgm|(talk) 10:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Conditional keep per Shimeru- the evidence at hand is not strong enough to convince me of this school's notability, but what is available makes me think that it can be shown to be. If not sourced, then merge or redirect. --Kuzaar-T-C- 16:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Comment — There are no solid sources listed for this article and for all I know this lengthy work is pure fabrication. So I can't lean toward keep on this. — RJH (talk) 18:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep per Highfructosecornsyrup (talk • contribs). *Mystic* 23:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Weak Keep A thorough, well-written article that desperately needs to have more sources provided. Would benefit greatly from some attention from more knowledgeable Wikipedians. Alansohn 04:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Same comment as to Shimeru above: Yes the article is thorough -- no, make that very thorough -- but 90% is either unverifiable or non-notable (i.e. the facts presented are likely published nowhere or only on the school's website). Pan Dan 14:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep per Shimeru and Alan. Also note that the school website has a lot of high quality pictures, so if someone has time they may want to find out if any of them can released under the GFDL which would suit the article nicely. (I may be betraying my deletionist roots by letting that influence my opinion on the article) JoshuaZ 04:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously. This junior high school has been repeatedly ranked #1 in the state of California for three years in a row. Silensor 07:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
