Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Mall (TTC)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Bloor-Danforth (TTC). - Bobet 15:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] East Mall (TTC)
DeleteMerge - Station doesn't exist, nor is it planed, proposed, or under consideration - it's a fantasy Nfitz 14:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment nomination seems to conflict with cited source. WilyD 15:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- cited source, is a planning document - there are many, many, planning documents in the history of the city, that list many, many hypothetical subway lines that never have, or never will, be constructed. However, there are no plans afoot to proceed on, nor have there been any Ontario class or individual Environmental Assessments on the subject, unlike the proposed Spadina or Sheppard Extensions. Do you suggest we create a Gerrard Station link from the 1980's Downtown Relief Line plan? Toronto and TTC have clearly stated what they are planning in the next decade or two, and a Bloor west expansion isn't mentioned. At best there should be a page for this dead idea, similiar to Downtown Relief Line that lists the stations. Nfitz 15:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't offer (nor have I really formed) an opinion on what should be done with the article. I only noted that planned/proposed/something. This isn't Wikinews, things that were once deserving of articles never lose that quality. As for merging to a general article on the whole line - who knows? That's a fairly minor issue. WilyD 15:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- The westward Bloor-Danforth subway extension was included in the Rapid Transit Expansion Study (which was made just 5 years ago), so it was planned, and can be built. Unlike this subway extension, the Downtown Relief Line wasn't mentioned there, so that wasn't planned, and won't be built. Geo android 15:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- - hang on, that study you cite, considered various options, and as part of the study, eliminated the westward expansion of Bloor subway as a viable option. Since 2001, the only subway extensions that TTC have considered are the Spadina extension, and the Don Mills extension. There's been no discussion of a station at this location, except in this dated planning document that eliminated this as an option for further consideration. Nfitz 15:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- That may be true, but this isn't Wikinews - subjects don't somehow lose encyclopaedic value with time. WilyD 16:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was never encylopaedic. It was proposed and rejected within the pages of an internal planning report. A mention of the station within an article about the proposed extension, is one thing. But a couple of people are systematically creating pages for every proposed subway station within the city. Soon there will be more fantasy stations that real ones. Each page is virtually identical except for the name of the station. Nfitz 16:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Systematic coverage isn't a bad thing - there's even a bot to create a page for every Assbackwards, USA from census data. It passes WP:V, and there's even a template for planned infrastructure. WilyD 16:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have no problems with planned infrastructure. But that's the whole point - this isn't even planned, or proposed. It was simply tossed out in the middle of a planning report, and then eliminated from further consideration. I could live with it being merged into something though ... Nfitz 16:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Systematic coverage isn't a bad thing - there's even a bot to create a page for every Assbackwards, USA from census data. It passes WP:V, and there's even a template for planned infrastructure. WilyD 16:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was never encylopaedic. It was proposed and rejected within the pages of an internal planning report. A mention of the station within an article about the proposed extension, is one thing. But a couple of people are systematically creating pages for every proposed subway station within the city. Soon there will be more fantasy stations that real ones. Each page is virtually identical except for the name of the station. Nfitz 16:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Bloor-Danforth (TTC), mentions this as part of a larger proposed extension, but this is not enough to warrant a separate article just yet. The article mostly discusses the extension as a whole. Merosonox 16:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- That may be true, but this isn't Wikinews - subjects don't somehow lose encyclopaedic value with time. WilyD 16:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't offer (nor have I really formed) an opinion on what should be done with the article. I only noted that planned/proposed/something. This isn't Wikinews, things that were once deserving of articles never lose that quality. As for merging to a general article on the whole line - who knows? That's a fairly minor issue. WilyD 15:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- cited source, is a planning document - there are many, many, planning documents in the history of the city, that list many, many hypothetical subway lines that never have, or never will, be constructed. However, there are no plans afoot to proceed on, nor have there been any Ontario class or individual Environmental Assessments on the subject, unlike the proposed Spadina or Sheppard Extensions. Do you suggest we create a Gerrard Station link from the 1980's Downtown Relief Line plan? Toronto and TTC have clearly stated what they are planning in the next decade or two, and a Bloor west expansion isn't mentioned. At best there should be a page for this dead idea, similiar to Downtown Relief Line that lists the stations. Nfitz 15:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Merge. per above. Nlsanand 19:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Merge. Stations that don't exist surely cannot be counted as notable. I think it is doubtable that stations themselves are notable. -Kmaguir1 21:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
