Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earl of Amersham

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy deleted as vandalism (hoax); hoaxer blocked. Just zis Guy you know? 09:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Earl of Amersham

Probable hoax though it doesn't look like one. No relevant Google hits. Will withdraw nom is some credible references are provided otherwise can be deleted as unverifiable. Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 03:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete The Wikipedia editors who maintain these lists are pretty meticulous, and this one's not on the list at List of Earls and Countesses in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. Only three earldoms have been created since 1960: Princess Margaret's Husband, Earl of Snowdon; Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex; and former Prime Minister Macmillan, Earl of Stockton. Fan1967 03:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Plus the Earl of Inverness, if one may pick a nit. —Tamfang 05:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Tsk, tsk. Guess they weren't that meticulous. They left that one off the list. (Why do the royal family need all these titles, anyway? They're princes, for heavens sake. Isn't that enough?) Fan1967 05:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

They're thinking of the future. Andrew's grandchildren won't be princes. —Tamfang 06:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Note There are a number of articles on noble families created by this author, Johnpallen (talk • contribs). His user page claims he's a genealogical researcher. Either he has sources for these, or they're all going to need to be looked at. If they're hoaxes, some of them (Fürsts of Schwarzenberg, for example) are awfully elaborate. Fan1967 03:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Roberts (second nomination), about an alleged noble with the same surname, but totally different titles. Fan1967 03:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comments. It looks very much as if everything ever posted by this editor is a hoax. Some of these are edits to existing articles, which were later reverted. Others were articles he created. Based on the enries, we can make some guesses about his name and age:

• From Fürsts of Schwarzenberg

Heir Presumptive: Durchlaucht und Fürstliche Gnaden Fürst Stefan-Karel Roberts-Schwarzenberg (1992-)

• From Marquess of Cholmondeley

The heir Apparent is Stefan David Andrew Roberts-Cholmondely, Earl of Rocksavage, Viscount Villiers and Baron Ashley

• From Earl of Shaftesbury

The heir presumptive to the Earldom of Shaftesbury is Stefan David Andrew Roberts-Spencer-Churchill, Viscount Villiers, Baron Ashley.

• From Earl of Jersey

The Heir Presumptive to the Earldom of Jersey is Stefan David Andrew Roberts-Ashley-Cooper (1992-), Viscount Villiers, Baron Ashley.

• From Viscount Villiers

Stefan David Andrew Roberts, 11th Viscount Villiers. (b.1992)

Note also that the article deleted twice was Stefan Roberts. Looks like all these articles need serious review. A few of them are his name inserted into articles on real titles. The Fürsts and Villiers articles look like total fakes. (The Villiers article has since been restored to its original state as a redirect.) Fan1967 03:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete all hoaxes. Hoaxer should be indefinitely blocked. 66.108.252.140 04:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all for failing WP:HOAX and block the hoaxer. --Coredesat 06:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Robertsteadman 09:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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