Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragon Quest Heroes

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dragon Quest Heroes

Orphaned and questionable overview of two titles of a supposed series of video games where the author claims the original title has little or no relevance. [1] Combination 22:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Keep. Bad faith AfD; The user was previously trying to turn it into a redirect to Slime MoriMori, and blanked the talk page's cvgproj template saying "does not exist" (when clearly, it does exist). And yes, the original Japanese-only title is of very little relevance to the en.wiki when there is an English title to be used. - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Additionally:

1. No longer orphaned, linked to in both of the games and in the main Dragon Quest article.
2. What is questionable about the overviews?
3. What makes it "supposed"? - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- X399 23:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 04:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
• Template:Vote keep Spin-off of popular series. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 04:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep; looks like a bad faith nomination; it's a stub, but not a bad one. Additionally, please do not use voting images. Thank you. Captainktainer * Talk 08:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Clean At first glance, the page seems unneeded -- that's what main series pages are for. But upon looking at the Dragon Quest page, it's obvious that each spinoff series has its own page. Maybe something needs to be added to reflect that? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and Clean-up Umm.. Apparently, some editors need to learn how to Assume Good Faith -- this is the third afd in recent days that has had someone complaining that an article is in "bad faith" ... These are articles with no sources and no obvious assertations of notability. They should be questioned and vetted and cleaned up. On to the articles and the reasons for merge... I've never heard of this game in my life, so the wikipedia article should teach me some thing about it. When I first enter the page, I think it's a disambiguation page. Ok, fine and dandy. There is a lot of talk about the The quality of the writing is not very good, the article doesn't explain terms like "blue slime" (neither does the link to the word) ... the articles for the two games in this series are painfully short. It's really an un-needed disambiguation page. So, I say Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest and Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime into Dragon Quest Heroes in order to provide more succinct and better reading article --Kunzite 00:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

  The user has on multiple occasions made personal attacks. Additionally, that is not a good idea. The articles are of too high importance to be merged together like they once were. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

  User comments do not preclude WP:CIVIL. Please further explain the importance of having these two articles as seperate entries? What harm would that do? The two articles now are painfully short. Why, when there is an adequate namespace for the two article, on a very similar subject, must we have two? the merging document suggests..."There are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability. If a page is very short and cannot or should not be expanded terribly much, it often makes sense to merge it with a page on a broader topic. If a short article requires the background material or context from a broader article in order for readers to understand it." We should follow it. --Kunzite 03:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

  The user made an insult towards me on his user talk page. On the subject of DQH and SMMDQ - they are not "very similar games", they are two completely different entries in a series outside of visuals and gameplay. Different plot, different levels and other similar details. Would you suggest merging the six Star Wars articles together? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

  That still does not preculde WP:CIVIL. "Different plot" is no reason to split as pointed out at WP:FICTION, fiction based articles should be merged. And, yes, if the six Star Wars series articles were this short, they should be merged. I would be happy to do it. --Kunzite 00:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

  So he was being civil when he made an insult towards me. Riiight. I'm sure you're not the only sane Wikipedian with that outlook on civility. Before you merge the articles, be sure to remove the stub tag. There's a good reason why it exists. You make it sound like the two articles are notoriously short, when they are both several paragraphs long. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• keep no valid reason given for deletion. — brighterorange (talk) 02:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Series is spinoff on popular series so that follows WP:Software and I really don't see any other reason for deletion.guitarhero777777 02:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Please explain exactly how this meets WP:SOFTWARE, I see no references to multiple, non-trivial published bits of information mentioned anywhere in the article. Nor do I see anything that satisfies the other criteria. Is WP:SOFTWARE the best guideline for video games? It looks to be more geared toward applications and the like. --Kunzite 03:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - In a shocking vote against the grain of this discussion, I'm voting to delete. Right, other than the 2 synopses for Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest and Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime, both of which are adequately covered in their respective articles, we have 2 lines. How is this useful? Why not just make it a redirect to the first game, introduce the Dragon Quest Heroe's series there, and mention the second game either in the lead paragraph or as a dab link at the top? Right now, it just seems to be having an article for the sake of having an article. - Hahnchen 03:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep Bad faith nomination. Havok (T/C/c) 12:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but needs a clean up. +Fin- 16:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, this is a glorified disambig. Garrett^Talk 02:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.