Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Direction of Motion

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Johntex\^talk 02:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Direction of Motion

Self released album from unsigned band. Delete as non notable per WP:MUSIC. Rockpocket 17:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - self-released albums are not automatically non-notable, in fact, the number of artists doing this is increasing rapidly. If self-release = deletion then albums by a spread of artist encompassing The Residents, Jandek, Throbbing Gristle, Brian Eno, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, XTC, The Wedding Present, David Sylvian, Simply Red, Peter Hammill, Guided By Voices etc etc will have to go too. Ac@osr 19:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - i appreciate that, however most if not all of these have been signed to a major label in the past, almost all will have charted nationally (in some cases internationally), toured nationally (in some cases internationally) and have had significant press coverage outside their local region. I don't believe this is the case here. Rockpocket 20:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - my point was more that there's a difference between being unsigned and being on your own label - this group's albums appear to be properly manufactured and distributed rather than home-burned vanity releases. 20,000 sales is not to be sniffed at. And I would love to see Jandek on a major!Ac@osr 20:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 12:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as an nn album by an nn band, although I do enjoy how the band titled the album. -- Kicking222 15:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is notable because the band has established notability per the entry in WP:BAND "Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability." The album is available nationally on sites like allmusic.com and amazon, and was professionally produced. Aguerriero (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I misread the item, my apologies. Aguerriero (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Ian Manka Talk to me! 06:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - it should be noted that this article was originaly brought here alongside the article for the group, Averi. The result of that AfD was keep.Ac@osr 07:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment on the above comment In the interest of full disclosure, the Averi discussion consisted of one vote by someone who was not directly related to the band. -- Kicking222 21:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No claim of notability made, which at least removes additional considerations of advertising, and spam. No, wait, this is an ad. Tychocat 14:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Amazon seems to reveal some notability. [1] Cedars 16:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.