Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Eltis

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete consensus to delete established even counting the 3 keep comments, which are dubious at best, as they are all from editors with few or no edits on this project outside of the AfD/article. W.marsh 20:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Eltis

Funny but not actually true - although I'd like to see an exploration of urban deprivation and 17th Century mysticism accompanied by the music of the Bay City Rollers - BJAODN I reckon. Spondoolicks 16:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The article may be poorly written, but he has published a bit [1] and is credited with invented Flying Chess whatever that might be worth. Peyna 16:52, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Well this David Eltis has been published, and it looks like he may deserve an article. The man described in the current article doesn't bear much resemblance to him though. --Spondoolicks 17:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

There is also a David Eltis in the History Dept. of Eton but he seems to be a different guy to the Emory Professor. Here's a list of publications by Eton masters including three papers by him in various journals. Still no mention of the Bay City Rollers play unfortunately. --Spondoolicks 17:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The Dr David Eltis in the History department at Eton does write plays on modern conflicts - I've been to several performances of the plays and read several more - has inveneted Flying Chess and did write his thesis on the Military Revolution. However, he should not be confused with the American Dr Eltis, who is a specialist on the Atlantic Slave Trade. Jambo

• Delete. There are a few nuggets of reality in amongst the dreck, but as a whole it is just a bad joke. There is no such play as "Prufrock, Wasted!". --Thunk 17:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless someone bothers to write articles for either of these two gentlement mentioned above instead of the joke that currently exists on the page. Peyna 18:48, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -Prufrock and Wasted are seperate plays and do indeed exist. I am amazed at your temerity in disimissing them merely because they are not widely known. -- Padishah

My statement that there is no such play as "Profrock, Wasted" was based on a Google search that turned up no hits. If you can point to a source demonstrating the existence of that play, I would happily be proven wrong. --Thunk 19:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I see--those were listed as two separate plays. My bad. --Thunk 20:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Ach, someone beat me to it, AFD tag was removed. Lots of puffery - the phrase "enjoyed critical acclaim, but failed to attract more mainstream audiences" is particularly damning. That's usually a sign of someone being a bit oversensitive about a failure. FCYTravis 08:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. David Eltis, the Emory scholar, seems worthy of an article. A Google search for "David Eltis" "Bay City Rollers" came up with nowt so that play is either unverifiable or a hoax. [2]

How could a play which is "an exploration of urban deprivation and 17th Century mysticism accompanied by the music of the Bay City Rollers" fail to win an audience? Philistines! Capitalistroadster 08:21, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as nonsense. --Terence Ong 08:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -Apart from more detail on his early life the rest seems to be fine. Jambo
• Keep - Unbelievable as it may seem, the facts of the article are actually correct. The Bay City Rollers play in unlikely to have been listed on the internet due to its Indie nature, something which should have been mentioned for the purposes of clarity. As regards to flying chess, I am quite sure that it was in fact invented by someone else.--Peteranthony 15:15, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment. Peteranthony's only edits are from today, regarding this AfD. [3]. --Thunk 21:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment. Flying chess is indeed a creation of Eltis, since it was he who taught me it. Jambo

• In reply to Thunk I edit and occasionally contribute to Latina wikipedia, FYI --86.133.129.193 00:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.