Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Walsh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.--Kchase T 01:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Walsh

Dave Walsh (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

As per a previous AfD, I am resubmitting this. This article fails WP:BIO and is related to Major League Gaming. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 21:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - As per nom.--Bryson 21:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:BIO - and how can playing an electronic game gain one notariety? At all? SkierRMH 22:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep - but would ask that some of the jargon (i.e. 4v4 or 1v1) be explained - as someone with no knowledge of the internal lingo, I don't know what those things mean (or create internal links for explanations). It would also be helpful if the citations that J0lt C0la mentions below were included in the article as well :) SkierRMH 05:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

• • We have notable Magic: The Gathering players, notable Go players, notable chess players, notable blackjack players... what makes playing video games any different? -- Kicking222 01:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep He has the same level of notability as the Ogre Twins (because they're on the same teams), who I've already proven to be notable, (--you told me someone else did it---and on the original AfD, his name was struck out and put next to it was "Determined that this article is note-worthy. Remvoing from AfD.") but here we go. Here's a newspaper article about him. [1] Here's a four page interview on a popular gaming site if you'd like to add more personal info about him. [2] Here's another interview on GotFrag: [3] He took 3rd place in the 2005 World Cyber Games [4] He used to be on the Halo team for Team 3D, and now he's on arguably the most famous Halo 2 team, Final Boss. He clearly meets notability guidelines, whether you like the idea of gaming making someone famous or not. And as for the comment "and how can playing an electronic game gain one notariety (sic)?" one might have felt the same way 10 years ago about poker, but now everyone knows who Chris Moneymaker is. J0lt C0la 00:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment, no not everyone knows who Chris Moneymaker is, I've never heard of him. Asked 3 co-workers who were passing by, none of them have heard of him either. SkierRMH 05:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

• Very strong keep per J0lt. He's the captain of the most notable team in electronic sports, and multiple well-known sources have talked about him / interviewed him. Plus, how can you delete Walshy?! -- Kicking222 01:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep This may be a new area of notability. I've tried to clean it up a little by replacing an unsourced claim with a sourced claim that shows some amount of notability. Have to see if professional gaming stays viable. Citicat 05:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep and expand - Should do a list of people under Electronic sports —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tonytypoon (talk • contribs) 20:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC).

• Strong Keep see [5] and Television. He is on TV every Saturday and 10 am on USA Network. Valoem ^talk 20:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep He's rather well known in his field and with a Television show that puts him over the edge. Clean up the sourcing and it's a golden article. NegroSuave 15:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Subject has never appeared in any major international competition, nor made any notable achievements and therefore fails WP:BIO. Show on USA network is sponsored by the MLG league itself and therefore not a reliable source. For clarification regarding e-Sports, view e-Sports and 2006 e-Sports World Champions -- DJiTH 23:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your work on e-sports in general, but I am seeing a major anti-MLG bias in all your 'delete' votes. I feel that I have gone above and beyond in proving notability in all these AfD's, and that you are against the articles merely because they are members of MLG rather than some other league. J0lt C0la 00:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.