Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Croatian Fighting Toads

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete, sockpuppets aside. --Titoxd^(?!?) 04:22, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Croatian Fighting Toads

• Keep, I believe this is real, as I have travelled to many eastern european countries in my time and have heard of such creatures from many a person.

Per the article, there are no reports of such creatures in this or any other area prior to [1979]. None subsequent either, per Google. Delete all hoaxy toadiness. Tonywalton  | Talk 23:47, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, hoax. Devotchka 23:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• delete, hoax. Am amazed to see that there is such a thing as toad fighting tho. Whodathunkit? Dxco 00:32, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, difficult to say. Best to ask someone from Hvar lest we delete a genuine article. As Dxco said, "Whodathunkit?" RumpledStilts 00:38, 28th October (UTC)
  • Comment Only edit by this user, who appears not to be unconnected with 195.137.118.3 who wrote the article. Tonywalton  | Talk

• • Comment Shouldn't it be "toadliness"? As in "cleanliness" and "worldliness" and such other gems? RumpledStilts 00:51, 28th October 2005 (UTC)
  • Rebuttal I'll have you know I have made several edits, you cheeky monkey. Plus, you've only made about 70 - perhaps we should be slightly suspect of you...

RumpledStilts 00:51, 28th October 2005 (UTC)

• It seems to me if it was real they could've just asked these beaten up people, after they regained consciousness, who attacked them, and I'm sure they'd have been eager to tell their story. Anyway, it sounds totally hoax-ish to me. Everyking 01:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  • OK, that logical flaw has now been addressed, making the hoax slightly less absurd. Everyking 05:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Well obviously they must have done, or nothing would ever have been written about the toad at all. No survivors would equal no story. Ominous. Though I agree it sounds suspect - suggest consultation with a Croat. Anyone know any admins from the area? Zaphodsjusthisguyyouknow 01:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Comment this user appears not to be unconnected with 195.137.118.3 as well. I'll go and consult my socks as to what they know about puppetry. Tonywalton  | Talk

In addition, his name might be too similar to User:Just zis Guy, you know?. Punkmorten 15:42, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete and BJAODN it. - Just zis Guy, you know? 08:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Outrageous! Hey - that guy totally stole my stolen name! Police! Zaphodsjusthisguyyouknow 11:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• The Croation Fighting toad is a real, but rare creature. For more reference, look up the works of the well known amphibian researcher Blaustein, and his work at the University of Croatia...
• Delete hoax. ManoaChild 21:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• WatchOut - I put it to you that ManoaChild is a hoax. Look carefully at his member page - it says that he lives in Hawaii - but we all know that nobody LIVES in Hawaii, it's just a holiday place! Mighty suspicious if you ask me! - Zaphodsjusthisguyyouknow 11:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

This seems unfair I was told stories as a child about these toads, and how they would lie in wait for the unwary Eastern Europian (although Croatia wasn't specified). My grandfather, whose family was Polish, told tales of how they would come raiding in the winter. Now whether this was true or not is debatable, but surely the article should be preserved as an example of the rich folklore of these parts?

• Delete and send to BJAODN. --Cactus.man ✍ 08:57, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Vandalism! Some bloke seems to be reverting to his version which removes some words and adds a reference to Jimbo Wales, which is excruciatingly not funny. Suggest legal action - it just makes the article look silly. - RumpledStilts 12:38, 29th October (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.