Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colby's Clubhouse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus suggests that the Trinity Broadcasting Network is indeed notable (5 million households viewers per week is actually quite high). However, it could certainly use some cleanup (e.g., sources: even if they're "out of print" as the article suggests, or NPOV: "teaches God's word"). It will be tagged as such. Patstuart^talk|edits 21:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colby's Clubhouse

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First of all, I was unable to find a notability guideline for TV shows, which strikes me as a little weird -- perhaps I just didn't know where to look. Or looked very badly. Anyway! Colby's Clubhouse gets 359 Google hits, and for a TV show that's still being broadcast (in reruns, sure, but still), that strikes me as very little. I couldn't find any links to anything that actually discussed, reviewed or in any way noted the existence of the TV show, other than scheduling information, a few fansites and whatnot -- nothing that would indicate that the show had been noted in the media. Going by the general notability guideline -- specifically, "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, reliable published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself" -- I don't think it qualifies. On the other hand, it should probably be stressed that they show it on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and I kind of get the feeling that what they do over there doesn't necessarily make a big impact on the, ah, more secular world... so the Google test may once again be a little weak here. TBN is apparently received in five million households per week, so potentially, I guess the show could be a fairly big deal... but I don't think it is. I guess one question to ask here would be "is every TV show notable?" I'm open to arguments to the contrary here, but I'm thinking no. -- Captain Disdain 09:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - I'm not aware of any specific guidelines for TV shows either, but it lacks reliable sources to show notability, and fails WP:V. As the nominator states, Google only gives 359 hits and GoogleGoogle News gives nothing. Jayden54 11:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 11:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep It's a Christian show for very very small kids, so it's hardly likely to have an online fan presence like The Simpsons or Star Trek (that said, there does appear to be at least one unofficial fan site for it). While I'm not sure I want to go on record as having said that "all TV shows are notable", it seems to me that a TV show that lasted 3 seasons and is STILL on air on the largest Christian network in the world is notable by any reasonable definition. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep As embarassed as I am to admit it, I saw this show a couple times in my younger years. As mentioned before, the ghit count isn't particuarly telling because it's a show for very young children and, on top of that, it serves a niche market. Because christian entertainment is certainly notable and this is a fairly well-known example within that market (perhaps not quite on the level of The Adventures of McGee and Me or Superbook but still well known) that makes it notable.--Velvet elvis81 15:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - The nominator found 359 Ghits for a show still being broadcast in reruns unimpressive. I consider it a sign of notability that the show is still being broadcast. --Groggy Dice T | C 01:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - seems notable enough to keep. Liveforever22 02:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Think of it this way. If someone stumbles across this TV show one day (as I have in the past), they may look to Wikipedia for information about it. That's exactly what I did. Tamajared 03:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, but it badly needs cleanup and someone to see what happened to the cast. If that still hasn't happened, THEN I would consider removal.

208.7.212.243 22:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - Show is national (at least), and should be kept. It does need cleanup, though. -- azumanga 06:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.