Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clementi Primary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Clementi Primary School

More schoolcruft. Substub, if you exclude the vandalism that it has accrued since no-one cares enough to watch it properly. Dunc|☺ 13:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Yet another systemic bias nomination against an Asian school. --Nicodemus75 14:51, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
  • And what the systematic bias in favour of primary schools and against such unnotable things as parks, corner shops, supermarkets, community centres, motorway junctions, garages, churches, lawyer's offices, doctor's surgery's, dentists, etc etc etc. Dunc|☺ 15:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I can't understand your statement in pidgin English. Work on your grammar so as to more adequately communicate your ideas. Diction is also important in the communication of ideas, "unnotable" is not a word.--Nicodemus75 17:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
      • This is a bit rich, given Dunc's systemic bias in favour of railcruft and related irrelevant minutiae. Cluttering up Wikipedia with pointless articles on non-notable trains - which are merely hunks of metal on wheels - and featuring such useful information as what colour the carriages of some defunct British rail company that nobody has ever heard were painted in 1958 makes most school articles look worthy of inclusion in Britannica by comparison.--Centauri 00:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this elementary school, which is large compared to elementaries where I am familiar with. Nobody will invest time in improving this or any article, until they know their contributions will be kept. The only way to give that assurance, is to completely defeat the attempt to mass-delete schools. Why can't nominators simple make up one big list, we'll have a single vote, and be done with this foolish waste of time. --rob 15:13, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I think you know why they won't do that.--Nicodemus75 18:43, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Rob, and wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Kappa 15:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Rob makes a valid point that contributors need to know their contributions will be kept. Personally I disagree with the notability of most primary schools, but agree absolutely that we need a clear guideline to prevent this timewasting one-by-one approach. What's the appropriate forum for that?
• Comment I've now discovered Wikipedia:Schools which clears some things up. Dlyons493 16:31, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete.Gateman1997 16:36, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and/or Transwiki to Yellowikis. Andrew pmk | Talk 17:50, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep of course, this is an important school. --Vsion 18:41, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This AFD page is yet another example of deletioncruft. On a serious note, this is actually quite a notable school, considering that it's notable as all the planning regions we put up. For goodness sake, we write about towns that have populations as small as 12. Certainly, we can write about facilities that serve way more? And this is Clementi Primary School. By the way, verifiable, notable, and I can see where I can contribute on this, although I'm not a pupil there, it would be a case study of "average education" in Singapore. Because mind you, all the stuff we have so far (most of it, at least), Anglo-Chinese School (which won the Odyssey of the Mind in 2001), Raffles Girls School, etc. all have been schools with high upper class populations. Certainly an average school can be represented? Because 1), already it's distinguished from countless other schools around the world, but there are no similar articles about this kind of education in the context of streaming, Singaporean demographics, and whatnot. -- Natalinasmpf 19:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or move to the community that it serves Pilatus 19:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this as well for reasons declared at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. I look forward to a time when we can all look back and wonder what all the bickering was about over the inclusion of a perfectly fine school article/stub. Silensor 19:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Pony Wikipedia:Schools needs revisiting. Hipocrite - «Talk» 20:28, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: Please make note that several Wikipedians have made requests that we keep these discussions civilized. We may not see eye-to-eye on what is important, but that is no reason to insult someone, their beliefs, or their contribution(s) to Wikipedia. This is a community driven project. Bahn Mi 21:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• More Sigh --Aranda56 23:09, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this merged school is twice as notable as the pre merger schools. Klonimus 23:33, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep More notable than most of the train stations on Wikipedia and we don't have people determined to delete those. Just get over it. CalJW 00:38, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete' Extract one fact - one fact - from this article which sets this school aside from any one of tens of thousands of schools and I will change my vote. Denni☯ 01:28, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
  • "Clementi Primary School is a government-funded and managed primary school in Singapore. It is located in Clementi, a new town in western Singapore." Fact 1: Clementi Primary School is the only educational institution of that name in Singapore. Fact 2: It is located in Clementi, a new town in western Singapore. Both of these facts distinguish this school from "tens of thousands of other schools", so you may now modify your vote accordingly. --Centauri 02:31, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
    • If that's the best you can do as far as "unique facts" go, then the joke is on you. / Peter ^Isotalo 04:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
      • Precisely the kind of stupid argument I would expect from someone who votes uncritically for anything with four walls and a roof. Try again. Denni☯ 01:59, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, as usual. Christopher Parham (talk) 23:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Neutrality^talk 01:46, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. *drew 03:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. As per nominator; once these things are kept, they're either going to be forgotten and ignored or will steal attention from articles with actual content. / Peter ^Isotalo 04:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

How will they "steal attention"? I genuinely don't understand the comment, don't have any intention of being rude. Vizjim 15:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, as per usual. Not being notable is not a criterion for deletion. Vizjim 15:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Consensus so far has been to keep schools (see Archive and Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep). ··gracefool |☺ 16:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. We should be encouraging this type of participation rather than wasting our time trying to remove good, encyclopedic information. Unfocused 22:07, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete all public schools. Gazpacho 23:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nonencyclopedic --redstucco 09:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete-Just another un-notable school article Dudtz 9/29/05 6:29 PM EST
• Keep - Worthy of a page. Singopo 06:27, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.