Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chronology of PlayStation 2 games

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 18:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chronology of PlayStation 2 games

There are approx 6000 Playstation 2 games in existence. Taken to it's logical conclusion, this list will comprise 6000 entries ordered by month/year of release. Bloated, incompleteable list of indiscriminate info. Delete exolon 18:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Zp66 19:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. PresN 19:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: Not because of its length, or almost definete always-incompleteness. Rather, I can't see a NPOV way to choose which release to place a title under -- first release, first English release if it got one, etc. Also, the fact it's a duplicate of List of Playstation 2 games just rearranged adds to the fact. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep: this seems to be considerably more useful than List of PlayStation 2 games, which is largely redundant to Category:PlayStation 2 games (it contains very little information not in the category -- basically just publisher names). This list, on the other hand, does organise its contents in a different way from the category, giving it at least some purpose in existence.
  Unlike the PSX version, there does seem to be a POV problem here in assigning "primary regions" to games -- for example, Final Fantasy X is down as a "North America" game, and it's not exactly clear on what basis that decision was made.
  That notwithstanding, a chronology is less redundant to the category than a straight alphabetic list. I'm not generally fond of lists, but if we were to delete just one list of PS2 games, it should be List of PlayStation 2 games, not this. — Haeleth Talk 22:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and Medodia's point(s). ~ Hibana 22:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep List may be long, but it is of finite length, and you could frankly deal with the prior objection as to what date to put a release under pretty easily by including both initial release, and since this is the English-Wikipedia, the English release if different from the above. Mister.Manticore 01:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

• Merge with List of Playstation 2 games. The useful feature of this article is that it lists the years in which the games were released, while the list does not. If someone (read: someone who cares about playstation games) wants to go to the effort of adding all the years to the ends of the lines in the List of Playstation 2 games (like this: Astro Boy (Sonic Team) (2004)), then that would probably be the best course of action. If no one can be bothered to do that, then it means that no one really cares about the dates and then this article should just be deleted. Ultra-Loser ^{Talk | BT sites} 02:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. As stated above, this list at least sorts games in a way that doesn't make it redundant to the category, and I can certainly see a chronological list being useful. If length is an problem, perhaps spliting it into several pages would be better. BryanG^(talk) 04:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• keep useful and maintainable list. 6000 entries is nothing. — brighterorange (talk) 19:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect per Ultra-Loser. While the release-date information is useful, it seems silly to have two separate lists for what essentially amounts to the same information. --Alan Au 20:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge This list is long, but not indiscriminate and provides useful info the category cannot. it does seem uneccessarily redundant with the list of PlayStation 2 games, though. Ace of Sevens 06:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Hi, thanks all for putting your arguments forward. I'm glad that the chrono list is an interest to people. I admit the page has some problems such as not having the developer or publisher, the whole "primary release" thing, which I think was addressed on the page. The most important thing to me in making the page was that it would easily show which games came out before or after others, vital info for flame wars on Joystiq. If deleted, a lot of useful data will be lost. If MERGED, ANNOTATE BOTH MONTH AND YEAR, please, into the list of PS2 games. Thanks. - Keithustus 07:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.