Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chrishan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 08:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chrishan

The subject of this article fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC. The only real claim to notability is an album supposedly to be released in 2007. WP:NOT a crystal ball. Creator sought to use semiprotection template and edit summary to avoid edits. Article has been deleted pursuant to speedy and prod. If deleted this time, perhaps it is time to salt. Creator is apparently an A&R rep using an account name that mirrors the supposed label of the album release, so there are also spam/vanity elements to this article. Erechtheus 04:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable, future maybe album, rumours and maybees regarding production and a lot of bad links --ArmadilloFromHell 04:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete this article was authorized by SoulRiver CEO Chris Dotson if you have concerns then email HIM at cdotson@soulriverrecords.com or I can have John Esposito CEO of WarnerElektraAtlantic (WEA) contact you. This album is in productino phase and time IS booked with producers. I am just doing my job guys. --SoulRiverUSA 04:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Contributions to this project that are within its scope are welcome. As you can see, there is considerable question as to whether this is an appropriate article at this point in time for this encyclopedia. The question is not whether your PR has been authorized by whoever you work for -- it's whether it is acceptable based upon project policies and guidelines. WP:NOT a wire service or MySpace. Erechtheus 04:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place.
• Delete per nom. WP:NOT a crystal ball or a dumping ground for self-promotional Spam. wikipediatrix 05:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Response It seems that you think this article is merely opinionated and unverfied, and you can believe that, but if you took the time to look up this you would see this is all correct. This isn't a fairytale and i cant believe how hard it is to do PR. Im not your run of the mill exec. I can have this put onto this site by other means of this administrator of someone of higher authority. Im not sure you actually see how you are preventing me from doing my job. This is no "speculated artist" or well, i can just have the President of Warner give the administrator a little talk.SoulRiverUSA 05:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • If mis-using Wikipedia as a hosting service for advance publicity material is your job, then I suggest that you change to another job, because your current job now has the attention of other Wikipedia editors, who will make it impossible for you to perform that job by removing your contributions of publicity material. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a publicity vehicle. If the president of Warner calls the Wikimedia Foundation and demands free web hosting for artist publicity, an event that I suspect to be highly unlikely given (for one thing) that the president of Warner almost certainly knows a lot better, xe will be told the same thing. No, you cannot have your advance publicity material "put onto this site by other means", and everyone that you talk to will tell you this. Please confine your PR activities to your own web site. Uncle G 10:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • It's easy to do PR. It's not easy to do whatever this article's creator is doing—which looks very similar to putting up posters on walls right over where it says "POST NO BILLS"–♥ «Charles A. L.» 20:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. With SoulRiverUSA's comments I'm inclined to believe this is a joke. Leaning towards a speedy. NeoFreak 05:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Yeah, we all believe that the president of Warner Bros. is going to call a Wikipedia admin. I also have some beachfront property to sell you on the moon. Very nonnotable. GrahameS 05:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete SoulRiverUSA, Please read up on what Wikipedia is and is not before making the hole you're in any deeper. - Richfife 05:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• For the reasons given at length at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/He Ain't Gonna, delete. Uncle G 10:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Well, running the risk of being uncivil: OWNED. NeoFreak 10:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per failure of WP:MUSIC and WP:NOT a crystal ball... and if this keeps up this AfD could end up being BJAODN-worthy.--Isotope23 19:20, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - fails WP:MUSIC and as per Uncle G's excellent commentary. Gold star for that fellow. Tony Fox (arf!) 19:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete garbage. Danny Lilithborne 19:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, violates WP:VAIN. Indeed, the article's creator seems very proud of the fact that it's an ad. I'm willing to change my position to keep if SoulRiverUSA will add a statement here to the effect that if summaries of negative reviews are added, he won't delete them, and will in fact augment them.–♥ «Charles A. L.» 20:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The man admitted this was nothing more than an advertisement, authorized by a CEO. Be gone with this already. Once it gets released and some media coverage, feel free to recreate. AmitDeshwar 00:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment This is Darren Clark telling you all is well, you can delete the page; I will just put it on again once the single charts, I assume it will be in the next month. Sorry about the confusion that was stirred amongst you fellows. SoulRiverUSA 01:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Reply Anyone here confused? - Richfife 01:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This is the third different person that User:SoulRiverUSA has claimed to be, thereby admitting that this is a Role Account, contrary to Wikipedia rules. Please read Wikipedia:Sock_puppet#'Role'_accounts, which states "If you run an account with multiple users, it is likely to be blocked." Furthermore, WP:USERNAME prohibits using your own company name as your Wikipedia username. wikipediatrix 02:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't need your permission to delete the article any more than we care who "authorized" it. That's not how Wikis work. That said, once the single charts there may be a case for notability—although again, because this is a Wiki and more specifically because of WP:NPOV, the article will be out of your control and not all the information there is necessarily going to be something you'll want there. Thing is, not only is Wikipedia NOT for ads, I can't imagine why any halfway competant flack would even want to create an ad that can so easily be changed and over which they would have so little control.–♥ «Charles A. L.» 15:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Thank you AmitDeshwar & ♥ «Charles A. L.». This simplifies everything. Im confused about what ♥ «Charles A. L.» said could someone clarify? SoulRiverUSA 02:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.