Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese singers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is a clear consensus to get rid of the article. There is not a clear consensus on whether it should be merged, or deleted, so I have gone with the majority. If someone wishes a userfied copy of this article in order to merge it into the List of Chinese musicians article, please let me know. Proto::► 10:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Note that given the short length of this list, and many of the names are on the other list already, there would be little if anything to merge. Proto::► 10:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese singers

Chinese singers (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Meets criteria for what Wikipedia is not; not a directory - WP:NOT#DIR. The role of this page as one editor has pointed out is redundant with categories that have already been created. The purpose of this page would be better served through the use of existing categories. Luke! 02:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. see Category: Chinese Musicians. --Tainter 03:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge with List of Chinese musicians and redirect I am an avowed opponent of our keeping lists the members of which ought properly to be comprised by categories—I am, that is, on the category side of the category-list divide—and so I'd generally be inclined to support deletion here, but I think merging to be in order in view of the ostensible lack of consensus for the deletion of lists of musicians by nationality (this is, IMHO, a list rather than a directory), toward which absence, see, e.g., the existence of the many constituents of Category:Lists of musicians by nationality; if a consensus amongst editors is to develop for such deletion (which deletion I'd likely support), it ought probably to happen in a less insular discussion. Joe 05:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: I created this article, so people can expand it later on. musician and singer are not the same. if this site is not a directory, how come we have so many list of this, list of that then? i didn't want to use the name "list of chinese singers," because i want people to add more contents rather just simple names. --FabulousRain 06:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Meets WP:NOT#DIR Bec-Thorn-Berry 09:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Lists are useful in cases where they can be a complete set of the subject matter, e.g. Lists_of_office-holders, but that clearly doesn't apply here. There is not even a clear criterion for inclusion; judging by the one line of text on the page, it's not nationality, so is it ethnicity or language? Somebody might want to find Chinese-language singers including those who are not from China, Taiwan or HK, but this would be better done by making a new category that would incorporate the existing categories for those countries. Fayenatic london 14:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - should be a category rather than an article, due to the inclusiveness aspect. Orderinchaos78 17:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to List of Chinese musicians per Joe. hateless 21:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - should be a category rather than an article. List of Chinese musicians should also be a category.--Nick Y. 21:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Off topic, but can you explain why? There are several things that a proper list can have -- such as vital statistics, native-language names, redlinks, and a full page history -- which a category cannot. -- Visviva 04:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to List of Chinese musicians as a subsection. This may not be strictly correct, but in practice Wikipedia treats singers as a subset of musicians; in fact there are several singers on that list already. -- Visviva 04:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to List of Chinese musicians, give it a subsection and if the list becomes too long in the future it can be spun back off as a separate article. TheMindsEye 01:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete without prejudice. This list doesnt take advantage of the benefits of using a list as opposed to a category. John Vandenberg 06:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.