Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chin mu kwan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Cbrown1023 18:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chin mu kwan

Chin mu kwan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This article consists of an unsourced hagiography of the Grandmaster, a section of linkspam, and "to be continued." ➥the Epopt 14:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

• CommentKeep and stubify The article currently has no useful sources, and the links to various karate schools should be removed, but I'm not convinced yet that the article itself should be removed. The subject of the article might be fairly notable if he's really responsible for directly or indirectly spawning a significant school of martial arts. Perhaps an editor with some expertise on martial arts could comment on this? (I'm also concerned that this is another case of either recentism, since the subject here would have pre-dated the Internet; or ethnocentrism, since it is about an Asian individual and we may not have readily-available English-language sources for him). Tarinth 16:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to taekwondo. Kang appears to be a reasonably notable individual. He was one of the martial arts masters who met in 1955 to unify the styles now known as Taekwondo. Chin Mu Kwan appears to be an organization he founded to promote the art and establish schools. [1]. I'm not certain whether the organization is itself notable beyond Kang's association with it. I could also support a decision to stubify and move (and redirect) to H.Y. Kang, but only if more sources can be found to support the bio. Shimeru 00:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep because he is notable; but delete the existing text as a possible copyright violation from

http://hometown.aol.com/hplichta/page3.html It needs rewriting anyway. --Bejnar 01:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• I'm heading toward stubify on this one. Seems like a notable person who needs a better article. Tarinth 01:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Note: Chin Mu Kwan is not the person, although the article deals mostly with the person. Shimeru 21:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I would say keep this. The history of Taekwon-do is shrouded in all kinds of mystery and needs clarification on a larger scale. This seems to do that. I admit that it needs to be rewritten but more importantly it needs to be finished. Chin Mu Kwan seems to be as important as any of the other taekwon-do organizations that are linked here. --Rasputin13 05:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC) There is great debate to the history of TKD. I have met some CTF members and they seem to be fairly true to the tenets but then it is just a sample. I say leave it under CTF as the organization and founder are one and the same to a certain extent. Adding to all the multiple histories of TKD can only help.

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