Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centrepoint Shopping Centre

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. W.marsh 03:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Centrepoint Shopping Centre

Hello. Article is a non notable factoid collection (SC has basements, shops, ...) I fail to see it's encyclopaedic aspect. I fail to see how it can become encyclopaedic. Gtabary 15:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Gtabary 15:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. This is not a "factoid collection", it is a serious article on this shopping centre. The nom should explain why this article is different than the thousands found in our Category:Shopping malls by country. -- JJay 16:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: This article should be categorized. This bull shit of nominating anything we don't understand is ludicrous. I think there should be a rule where we can't nominate an authentic attempt to create an article, allowing the author some time (perhaps at least 7 days) to create the article. For your information this is a mall in the Ottawa area and can be categorized in the ottawa category. --CyclePat 16:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: The mall's not in Ottawa, it's in Singapore. ;) I'll vote keep, as per JJay. — Kimchi.sg | Talk 16:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

comment: I'm sorry. You are technically correct. I believe its called CentrePoint Theatre here in Ottawa. On the street though I'm used to calling it CentrePoint mall. It can be found here or online here. Although there is an instance of the mall allegedly being in Toronto. [1] But it's spelt with an "e" at the end of pointe. Like "centrepointe" mall. Another instance is Centrepointe Mall, 6374 Yonge Street, Willowdale, Ontario. [2]. That may however be a typo because my govermnents web site lists it as one of the mall where a dispencer, for vehicle information and renewal, is located. The name however is with no "e" at the end.[3] It may be a totally different mall all together. None the less. I think we have proven that the name is popular all around the world and is notable. Hopefully the article will take all of this into consideration. --CyclePat 16:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep, I'm the creator of the article, and I may look bias. This is one of the more notable malls in Singapore. Maybe you should look at Compass Point Shopping Centre which is a sister mall located in the suburbs. Note that this is a Singaporean mall, not a Canadian mall. --Terence Ong 16:13, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. --Sengkang 16:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment There are many "Centrepoint" shopping malls around the world. At the very least the name of the article should make this clear. Regarding the comment about Category:Shopping malls by country - well, I was shocked to only find one article on shopping malls in Mexico. And looking at another example Category:Shopping_malls_in_Egypt, someone seems to have tried to turn the category page into a list. If I wanted information on my local shopping malls, I wouldn't look on Wikipedia. Carcharoth 16:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Not sure I understand your point. We have over 250 articles on shopping malls in the US, more than 50 for Canada. If you feel the coverage is weak for Mexico (and I agree) then please add more articles on the topic. The solution is not to delete a good article submitted by a valuable contributor on a shopping centre in Singapore. -- JJay 16:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per precedent. 23skidoo 17:33, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - not to mention there's also Sydney Tower, aka Centrepoint Tower, that has a large shopping centre at its base. I'd almost vote to make a disambiguation page to cover the number of major shopping centres named "Centrepoint". Confusing Manifestation 18:14, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. I actually fail to see encyclopaedic aspect to many mall articles. The fact that many (IMO) un-encyclopaedic artcicles exists is no excuse for one more. I would like to have opinions on what are actually the facts in this article which could not be mentionned about any random shopping mall. I maintain my delete vote. I am unconviced about the interest of this given article and it's kind. I personnaly think it is vanicruftisement: just because I can make an article about a subject I make it, forgetting btw to ask the key question about significance. I hope WP will not hosts an article for each mall mentionned here. Just imagine: 100 times details about basements, car parks, lifts, shops... Just my opinion.Gtabary 18:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• I respect your opinion, but I like reading these types of articles. Schools, streets, malls, bridges, towns, etc. are interesting and are generally handled very well here. Remember that malls are huge businesses that attract millions of people every year. They can be vital economically to their local regions. -- JJay 19:22, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• keep I guess, but probably move to Centrepoint Shopping Centre (Singapore) and leave the redirect to be a dab in future if needed. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] 20:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• keep and rename as per JZG above. --OscarTheCat^talk 22:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.