Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cem Kurtulus

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-11 05:16Z

[edit] Cem Kurtulus

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The article itself does not show how the person is notable. It explains that he/she has been published in several presumably Turkish magazines, but there is nothing further of note. It also lacks sources. A cursory web search isn't able to find anything notable about this person (the results are either copies of the Wikipedia article, pages that don't say much, or pages I can't read). Finally, no updates were made nor sources added for several months after being tagged 'notability'. Saligron 10:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Delete — perhaps a Turkish user could find some relevant info as google search finds mainly Turkish sites (not surprisingly) Rayis 12:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless properly sourced and referenced by end of this AfD Alf photoman 12:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep, additional references seem to confirm notability, but article needs work to avoid further nominations for deletion Alf photoman 17:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  10:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• weak keep not that I can add such information, but that there are a number of people here who do read Turkish & they should be encouraged to find sources. The en WP is supposed to be language neutral, so keeping out pages on the basis of the argument above is not really right. DGG 00:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment The reason for my nomination is that the article has not stated for a long time how the person is notable nor cites multiple independent sources. If either of these are done (though both is obviously preferrable), I would have no issue with keeping the article. (I can't judge if a web page is a non-trivial source if I can't read it ...) Saligron 00:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Showing that "Metarialistic Generation" is notable in its own article would also be acceptable. Saligron 01:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: He has at least one published book that is available for purchase: [1]. One of Turkey's leading papers, Zaman (newspaper) has an article about his and efe murat's poetic manifesto: Şiirde yeniden manifesto modası (Manifest Fashion in Poetry, again)],13/09/2005. The co-written book is this: http://www.yasakmeyve.com/?p=p_63&sName=madde---efe-murat,-cem-kurtulu%FE ISBN: 975-6198-06-0. That's all I could find. I'm for a weak keep. --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 20:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. An article about this man will not be maintainable if there are no sources in English. Note that there is a link over to a corresponding page of the Turkish WP, but there is no article about him there. EdJohnston 06:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, W.marsh 18:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

• References were added after nearly everyone in the AfD had commented. --W.marsh 18:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Contemporary poet published in at least five literary magazines and about whom an article was written in a national magazine - that's about as notable as you get as a contemporary poet in any language. --Charlene 18:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - references provided, and although English language references are preferred, non-English references are acceptable when English ones are not available. -- Whpq 21:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: An article about this man will not be maintainable if there are no sources in English --> dear EdJohnston, you cannot expect a contemporary national poet to have information in English! This is not an acceptable reason for deletion! What's more, the fact they don't have an article about him in trwiki it doesn't mean he is not notable enough... it siomply means that trwiki is not complete yet, as many smaller wikis are today... --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 13:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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