Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Castle Wars (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 02:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Castle Wars

This page sounds WAY too much like a game guide. Any useful information should be saved in the minigames article. Hemhem20X6 23:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge any relevant info and redirect to RuneScape RuneScape mini-games. Powers ^T 01:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Edited. Didn't realize the RuneScape mini-games article existed. Powers ^T 14:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, this fails WP:NOT based on this sentence: Spies are normally the lower level players who cannot make a difference, or simply fanatical Zamorakians or Saradominists. That's not encyclopediac, and even if it were destined for a merge it would need EXTREME overhaul on a lot of the fancruft. To me, it seems as if it's hopelessly fancrufty (after all, it is a wiki about ONE minigame in an MMORPG... Makoto 01:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into RuneScape mini-games, per nom. Castle Wars is one of the more popular minigames, and deserves a more extended coverage in the minigames article than it has already. This article seems to have been crufted up somewhat less than some of the others, but I am skeptical about whether an individual minigame deserves an article, although it is not as bad an idea for an article as Shield of Arrav. I believe a few people have been talking about merging anyway. CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 01:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:NOT, a game guide. wikipediatrix 03:26, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

*Delete. Almost the entire article is cruft apart from the first paragraph or two - if anyone wishes to save more of the article they can copy and paste or rewrite into the mini-games article. I had intended to do something with this article but haven't had the time, but now I'm taking out anything which IMO is worth keeping and porting it over. Interested parties, please take a look at the RuneScape mini-games article, but I reckon the job will already be done by the time an admin makes a judgement on this. QuagmireDog 23:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Delete as the relevant material has now been merged into the mini-games article (I struck through my own previous vote). Fine tuning the contributors' work now contained in the MG article will result in a much better product than continuing to do the crufty-pokey here. QuagmireDog 00:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Could I persuade you to vote for a redirect, then? Powers ^T 12:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - per above. Wickethewok 14:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge, especially since it has already effectively been done. You guys are ripping my heart out with the infernal AfD's. I have worked hard on trying to keep the crap out of this and other articles, only to see them up for deletion what seems like every week or so. I am almost beginning to see it as a personal vendetta against every article I have worked on, but that would be just a little paranoid, and I am not. Xela Yrag 16:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I'm sorry if I offended you (or will), but I really don't see the point in having this article. I do play RuneScape, but I find articles like this are not good for Wikipedia. It is a game guide, and is full of opinionated statements too.Hemhem20X6 00:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect, as per nom. Agentscott00^{(talk contribs)} 20:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Unnecessary. --Richard 21:29, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Unnecessary, non-notable, game guide, etc.--Ed^{talk c E} 23:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a place for fancruft and game guides. One example being the Tools section - the fancruft notice on the talk page clearly states that naming and giving descriptions of items is not allowed. Audacious One 04:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete Don't really mind that much either way, but I think this should be deleted as a good percentage of it is gamecruft. J.J.Sagnella 21:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, RuneScape mini-games#Castle Wars has more than enough info. This page is pure cruft. Garrett^Talk 23:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep But seriously trim down some of the info. Either that, or trim off much of RuneScape mini-games#Castle Wars and link it to here. Castle Wars is one of the more well-known mini-games and probably warrants a little more info than other mini-games.Eruan 19:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• CommentEven if it is major, about 99% of the info goes against WP:NOT, as a game guide. The 1% has already been included in RuneScape mini-games#Castle Wars.Hemhem20X6 23:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment The Castle Wars section of RuneScape mini-games -is- this page, with a different opener and the POVcruftGameGuide part of this article removed. When I took the rest of the information over to mini-games, I literally copied and pasted everything beneath the opener and above the 'player types' section, including the tool list. The tool list was collapsed into a few sentences of prose and placed accordingly, the rest was tweaked and slightly reworded to remove NN/guide text. There is little else to be said about the subject whilst remaining this side of relevance, anything additional will fit onto the mini-games article. QuagmireDog 00:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment Ok. But this is now over 5 days old; when will the discussion be closed? Hemhem20X6 00:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Wikipedia is not a game guide. Plus, there's already a better article on the RuneScape Wiki. --Ixfd64 19:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.