Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carole Goble
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-08 13:55Z
[edit] Carole Goble
No case made for notability Billlion 11:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Professor at the University of Manchester and editor-in-chief of a peer-reviewed journal (the Journal of Web Semantics). First two hits on Google Scholar cited 281 and 199 times, several other more than a hundred times. Pharamond 18:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment:In the light of the above it sounds like she might well have done something interesting and be known for it, in which case lets see an article citing secondary sources that establishes that. However being a journal editor and having loads of grants and publications is pretty much part of the criterion for promotion to professor at the University of Manchester. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (academics), I don't see the evidence for eg The person is regarded as a significant expert in his or her area by independent sources. (which is perhaps the easiest to meet). Billlion 19:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- Pete.Hurd 21:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. In WP:BIO, "People who satisfy at least one of these criteria may merit their own Wikipedia articles ... Creative professionals: ... The person or their work has been widely cited by authors". The editorship etc also indicate to me that she is known as a significant expert by her peers. Passage of the more specific criteria in WP:PROF would be even clearer. —David Eppstein 21:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Full professors at major research universities meet it, having passed several external reviews by experts for their notability in the profession. We don't establish notability in WP, we see if the profession has established notability. -- This doesn't apply to every college, but it does to major universities, and University of Manchester is unquestionably one. This is further confirmed by the editorship.
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- There's an interesting phenomenon--if an article on an academic does list all the papers then it gets condemned as puffery, if an academic is more modest, then it gets thought non-notable. DGG 23:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Given information provided by User:Pharamond, this qualifies under criterion 4 of WP:PROF: "The person's collective body of work is significant and well-known." Having an article cited >200 times is a major accomplishment in academe. -- Black Falcon 23:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Being a journal editor-in-chief does meet "The person is regarded as a significant expert in his or her area by independent sources". Why otherwise would she be selected. The criteria for promotion to Professor at UK universities pretty well makes anyone so selected to be notable and this academic is. --Bduke 01:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, ditto to all the above keeps, extensively published and internationally known. --User:Duncan.Hull
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
