Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canada national rugby league team

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 06:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada national rugby league team

• Delete - See above, I'm actually a fan of rugby league, but am trying to clean up these pages to stop people kidding themselves that countries that had a limited competition a few years ago deserve their own page James Bowes 21:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Assuming sources can be found (something I'll turn my mind to shortly if nobody else does), this is a team in a notable sport representing a country. The amount of game time its seen is the only concern, but I remind the nominator that there hasn't been much international league (with the exception of Australia, NZ and the UK) in several years anyway. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• While I agree with the above rugby league has been non-existant in Canada for two or three years since the regional 9-a-side competitions folded and thus this is now a defunct national team. If they were still in existence I'd support the inclusion, but the fact that they didn't even consider entering the world cup qualifiers and haven't played internationals for years suggests that the team is dead. Maybe the results can be merged into a past international results section?James Bowes 22:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's the thing: Making the comment that "rugby league has been non-existent in Canada" doesn't actually make that the case. Indeed the reverse would appear to be true. A merger may end up being the best solution, but the way I read the whole thing is that the Canadian team is essentially on hiatus and may well return to the fold sometime soon - much like a football/soccer team which doesn't opt to qualify for a particular world cup. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Comment - I don't want to go calling names, but a check of this user's contributions makes for odd reading. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Surely the fact that I've left thirty other countries with a rugby league presence and just focused on two suggests something?James Bowes 14:25, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

It might do, yes, but it's always suspicious when a new user appears and immediately starts nominating articles for deletion and has a reasonable understanding of the process. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually I do think you have a point here. I've only just got my own computer, so the times I've edited pages (mostly rugby league ones) I've not thought to log in, as it was not my computer so it wasn't set up to log me in, and it wasn't necessary. I can see why it would look suspicious to you though. To be fair though, the reasonable understanding of the process is from the clear set out page on it.James Bowes 11:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Once notable, always notable. A national team is notable, even if it no longer exists. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 00:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Again, the word "duh" comes to mind. Just because it's old doesn't mean delete it. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 00:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletions. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 00:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep per WP:SNOW. A national team of a major nation in a major sport has zero chance of being deleted, no matter how limited the history is, and for good reason. Resolute 01:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, of course, a national sports team is definitely notable, so this should not ever get deleted. --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 04:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Now I know that defunct national teams are notable, I will remove the deletion, but put a note that rugby league (as opposed to rugby union, which is fairly big there) is no longer played in Canada

Not a good idea. AfD tags are meant to stay until the debate itself is closed (chances are that this one will be soon enough, but still). Additionally, league is still played in Canada per the source I provided earlier, so adding erroneous information to an article doesn't help matters. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Please check your sources very carefully before making assertions. The above link proves that rugby union is played in Canada. You may not know the difference I gather, but rugby union (the form sometimes simply called rugby) is the type played in about 100 countries and is the type played in Canada and in the confusingly named Canada Rugby Super League. Rugby league is a sport played in about thirty countries, mostly in Europe and Oceania and is no longer played in Canada, there having been no domestic competition since 2003.James Bowes 14:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The link hadn't been working perfectly for me at the time I posted it, so all I had to go on was that it was used in a previous AfD around the same topic and that it contained the words "Rugby", "League" and "Canada". On closer inspection, you're right there. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.