Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calley Anne Slagle

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - consensus that she fails WP:BIO, Seraphimblade sums it up nicely. Yomangani^talk 17:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calley Anne Slagle

This was put up for proposed deletion with the following reason: "Reads like CV, no assertion of notability, Google doesn't know this one too well." I disagree with all these reasons, but I think the article may be a good candidate for deletion based on how unimportant the subject seems to be in the grand scheme of things. However, she is a real person, and I tend to think real people are worth keeping, much more so than the many minor fictional characters that litter the encyclopedia. Mr Spunky Toffee 02:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, very little notability or mention in third-party publications that I've found so far. Seraphimblade 03:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete appears a very minor figure in the pageant world per my research, thus fails WP:BIO for me. Rockpocket 06:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete — NN. Dionyseus 08:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable. Plus, article was written by "Msidusa" whose contribs page [1] says "I am Calley Anne Slagle Haws and just wanted to enter some data that people might find useful." so personal promo page as well. Emeraude 12:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. --172.164.241.200 20:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC) — Possible single purpose account: 172.164.241.200 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
• Keep - Miss USA state titleholder -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 03:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - state champion in an event which attracts wide coverage. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete she never won the Miss Potatoland contest, but got there by default, which is a very weak claim to notability. People will remember the winner in a regional/state thing, but rarely the runner up. Different if it were Miss America. That the original editor of Miss Potatoland article only remembered her by Calley Slagle is a case in point. Against her is the conflict of interest. Precisely 4 Ghits for "Calley Anne Slagle", of which 2 wiki. Ohconfucius 02:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

First of all, what's with calling the contest "Miss Potatoland"? That is rude and uncalled for. She might have been the runner-up but regardless, she did hold the title. Another in a similar position is Ashley Litton. Conflict of interest? Well you haven't told us what that is. Slagle appears to have started the article, but had she been a more recent titleholder I would have started it myself (again, see Ashley Litton). I didn't because I don't have time to right articles about titleholders from 1997 as what little time I have is spent on more recent ones. As for the ghits... this is extremely obvious. She reigned in 1997, when the internet pageant scene was in its infantcy. Had she been a few years later, I would have been able to gather information from Turn for the Judges but that site only starts from 1999. Similarly to my earlier point, if she was more recent there would undoubtedly be some news articles on her but we are going back 10 years and its unlikely there's anything on her still available on the internet now. As for the name thing -- check out any list of pageant titleholders and you'll see most include (often multiple) middle names. I generally get rid of them per the naming conventions. However some do go by their middle names as well and I assume I'm not expected to remember all of this. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 05:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Agree that "Miss Potatoland" wasn't called for. As to Litton-I'm not sure she's even really notable enough to stay, but at least with the one writeup as the winner she's at least much more borderline. Still very few ghits though. This one, however, is even less notable then she is. Unfortunately, the argument seems to be "She was a state titleholder", but I don't see anything in the bio qualifications that winning a state beauty pageant (especially not even really winning it) makes one notable without any further consideration. If this were Miss America, that would be quite different-even the finalists in that would be likely to achieve notability. But state competitions? Should we include the winners of state spelling bees? Little League championships? There are lots of state competitions, winning one doesn't by default make one notable. At a national or world scale that's likely different-a Miss America winner would be notable just by virtue of winning. Since there's generally little information beyond the short winner-bio on many of these, perhaps a list and short bio of winners would go better on the state pageant's page, and link to the winner's page if one does become notable? Seraphimblade 06:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.