Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caiman (Star Fox)

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The result of the debate was No consensus -> Keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:16, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Caiman (Star Fox)

Caiman is a very, very minor character in Star Fox 64 and doesn't need a whole article on him. Thunderbrand 20:44, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TALLY OF EXISTING VOTES by Marblespire

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• Keep: Everyking, A.J., Kappa, Dr. D, Badlydrawnjeff, Almafeta, SocratesJedi, Vanban, Falcolombardi87
• Invalid anon votes - 69.205.231.249 (three times), 69.205.228.93 (five times), 169.244.70.148
• Merge: Scimitar, Kappa, W, Andre
• Delete: Martg76, Jacob1207, Megan1967, Marblespire, W, Firebug, Thunderbrand, JamesBurns, Drini, Natalinasmpf, Texture

• Delete as fancruft. Martg76 20:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Do NOT delete the article! Wikipedia's Star Fox section is already poor enough. I am on a campaign to add to all of the Star Fox Articles and make it complete. Although Caiman is a minor character he deserves a place on Wikipedia. 69.205.228.93 20:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)Unnamed StarFox Fan

• Keep 69.205.228.93 21:00, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep the info, but suggest a merge into a list of minor characters or something to that effect. Everyking 21:02, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

The problem is that there is not enough secondary characters in StarFox to have a "secondary characters" page. PLEASE don't delete it!69.205.228.93 21:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

• Keep69.205.231.249 21:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Caiman is a pretty cool guy... kind of. I agree that it should be put in a minor Star Fox Characters article, but there just isn't many minor characters in Star Fox 64, so I think it should be kept.69.205.231.249 21:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC) -Wandering Cleric of sorts69.205.231.249 21:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

• Merge with Star Fox series. There's already a list of characters there, ready for expansion. Alternately, cut out all the non-main characters from there and put it on a Star Fox characters list. Scimitar 21:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• The "Star Fox series" page's list of characters is just a list of links to pages about the characters. I don't see what the huge fuss about letting Caiman have his own page is all about. So what if he is not a huge major character, its okay to let secondary characters have their own pages. All of the StarFox characters should have more added to their pages, which will make Wikipedia more complete. Deleting Caiman is just a way of slapping StarFox in the face and degrading Wikipedia's wonderful amount of content.69.205.228.93 21:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Faye has her own page and her character did not even show up in any game! There's nothing wrong with this, I'm just saying that there are other occasions where secondary characters have their own pages. This, In the words of Peppy Hare, is "A-OK."69.205.228.93 21:44, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The article is perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with letting it stay, and it would not hurt any of us in any way if it is not deleted. Think before you delete... someone worked hard to write it. --A.J. 02:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• It is true. Why delete pure information for the sake of deleting it? This article in no way makes Wikipedia less organized. By deleting it we would be senselessly deleting information from the collected knowledge of the world. Although it is a minor thing about some video game character, is it any different than book-burning ceremonmies. Please, think about it before you delete it.Dr. D 23:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This minor video game character is not notable. Jacob1207 23:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep! This article expands on Wikipedia's little-explored StarFox universe. It in no way hurts anything and is completely factional. The only reason I could see for anyone to delete this page is either because they think that "Minor StarFox Characters" should be a page with Caiman on it (which wouldn't work due to StarFox's lack of many minor characters) or for spite. None of those reasons are valid to me. Please, we must keep it! Dr. D 00:07, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep or merge somewhere per Scimitar, verifiable, encyclopedic coverage of a fictional universe. Wikipedia is not paper. Kappa 00:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• So what if StarFox is a fictional Universe? Wiki covers Star Wars and Star Trek, two of the largest fictional universes known to mankins. THEY both are allowed to have articles about secondary characters, so why shouldn't StarFox's Universe be able to? Just because its smaller doesn't mean that it should be pushed to the side. PLEASE KEEP IT! Dr. D 01:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not notable, fan cruft. Megan1967 06:35, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, nothing to merge. "Venom" is the home planet of the final boss; as you fight through their airspace and attempt to make landfall, the game occasionally interjects commentary from enemy commanders for a bit of color. This is one of those enemies. You don't even FIGHT him. Trivial in context, nn out of context, and I could make some choice comments about sock puppets. Send this the way of the Aparoids. Marblespire 10:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep169.244.70.148 11:55, 25 May 2005 (UTC) There is no good reason for this article's deletion.
• Delete, merge if there's an article that needs the info. --W(t) 11:59, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
• Keep --Badlydrawnjeff 15:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Fake edit by anon user removed (pretended to be Badlydrawnjeff voting delete) - Tεxτurε 19:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge as suggested. If there aren't enough characters to merit a "secondary characters" page, why should this secondary character deserve its own page? Xcali 02:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
• DELETE and ignore ALL of the sockpuppet and anonymous votes. Firebug 05:00, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I noticed my name wasn't in the tally. Thunderbrand 15:52, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Because you hadn't explicitly stated your opinion yet. Didn't want to misrepresent. =) ~Mbsp
• Keep 69.205.232.11 3:15 May 25, 2005 (EST)
• I have NOT voted 4 times! All I have done is commented! Is that a crime? 69.205.224.242 19:21, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Apologies: you have only voted three times as of this writing. As they say out here on the Left Coast: "My bad." ~Mbsp 08:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete non notable. JamesBurns 10:55, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge, no redirect, to some Star Fox-related page. Andre (talk) 00:37, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. -SocratesJedi | Talk 06:52, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Almafeta 07:05, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Vanban 21:25, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. drini ☎ 21:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails to establish notability. I'm normally an inclusionist, by the way, and even this page is too much. -- Natalinasmpf 14:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Falcolombardi87 22:23, 2 June 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - Char does not require own article - Tεxτurε 20:53, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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