Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Budasheer

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The result was delete without prejudice; a new article may be created with reliable sources at any time. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 11:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Budasheer

• I can see no non-wikipedia based page in Google that defines this person. Markh 15:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Update see also new related afd Kianto Bwithh 02:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep but move to Budashir, the name under which he's normally known. There are only two hits on Google Scholar, one of which is in German[1], but there might not be a lot online about a semi-legendary pre-pharoanic Egyptian king who is only mentioned in one ancient source. --Charlene 17:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. --- RockMFR 19:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Agent 86 20:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Probable hoax along with related article Adim. Fails WP:V anyway. Can't find reliable sources on Adim on Google (including links mentioned above - Thinkquest is "created by students from around the world as part of a competition"[2]; Encyclopedia Mythica has low barriers to article submission and questionable factchecking (sources are asked for but are not cited in the article)[3]). Google books gives a lot of false positives, but nothing an Egyptian king named Adim from around the time of the Great Flood. Zero hits on Budasheer. Two google hits(?) on "Budashir" in a pay-locked journal (unable to assess) as cited above. Egyptian Mythology and kings (and Great Flood myths) are very well documented - should be easy to get a solid fix on this supposed king. "Cave Salt water distillation secret passed on by father's ghost" anecdote sounds like baloney too . Bwithh 20:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Bwithh. Eusebeus 01:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourced. I translated what I could find on JSTOR: "Another, not further researched development exists in the figure of HERMES BUDASHIR, named son of ARINAS or ARIS on page 53, or ABU DASHIR, son of ARAS on page 74, and is supposed to have written an epistel addressed to AMNUTHASIYA, named Risalat al-sirr fi'l-kimiya. The name BUDASHIR sounds similar to PETOSIRIS or BUSIR, AMNUTHASIYA is reminiscent of AUTHASIYA and other corruptions of THEOSEBEIA." The name pops up twice, once in 1936 (the quote), and once in 1983 (a footnote). I can't really be stressed to apply any notability guidelines if this is really sourceable, but an unsourced stub like this should not be allowed to exist for four years on Wikipedia, with numerous cleanup edits. A systemic failure. I contacted the original creator and asked him to contribute to this debate. ~ trialsanderrors 06:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because of lack of verifiable source. 69.140.173.15 19:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Conditional keep if a verifiable source can be found. 69.140.173.15 19:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.