Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breakpoint (demo party)

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The result was Keep - hahnchen 22:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Breakpoint (demo party)

Breakpoint (demo party) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Unencyclopedic. Seems no different from any annual convention or club meeting. If it's particularly significant in this subculture, then it should just be covered in a paragraph in Demoscene. Chowbok ☠ 19:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• Merge and Redirect. Merge to demoscene, with a redirect. DoomsDay349 19:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. There's too much here to merge into Demoscene, and it will continue to grow with each passing year. This event has attracted 500-1000 people across Europe for four years. It was featured, at the very least, in German print media and TV (refer to www.digitalekultur.org). Out of all the parties under Category:Demo parties, this one is among the most notable, so I'm surprised this article was nominated for deletion as opposed to some others. --Vossanova ^o< 21:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • My last job's staff Christmas party attracted over 500 people every year, but we don't have an article for that. —Chowbok ☠ 21:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    • We're talking about a gathering (lasting multiple days, mind you) of ~1000 creative individuals involved in a subculture already covered in _several_ other articles, not a commercial company providing entertainment for their co-workers. Please judge the event from a cultural standpoint, not merely as a set of attendance figures - Breakpoint is currently sponsored _actively_ by ATI and Intel, and is reported often in e.g. ARTE. // Gargaj 00:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• strong keep One of the biggest demo parties in Europe, definitely notable. Lots of press coverage in local newspapers and (computer) magazines like c't, for example here: [1] and here. Michael Drüing 21:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Here's another news article mentioning the event: [2]. Also in German, but I guess you find similar articles in most European news magazines. --Michael Drüing 01:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete. Failure to establish verifiability through multiple non-trivial independent reliable sources. - crz crztalk 22:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Here is another source Spiegel Online. Extensive article on germanys biggest news portal.--Qdr 02:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Currently stands as a flagship convention for the demoscene hardcore. // Gargaj 23:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per that Crzrussian. Edison 00:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Extremely relevant computer arts festival, well established for several years. --Qdr 02:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep large computer art festival, has had much coverage worldwide.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 07:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- it will only continue growing in significance; certainly it could use some clean-up but deleting it now just to start over from scratch in two years seems like too much energy misspent. Pseudo Intellectual 09:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• strong keep there are hundreds even thousands of demo parties. One that makes the top 10-20 in popularity for every single year for years past did prove it's WP:NV IMO --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 13:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per the above. This is a highly notable demoparty, and even if it weren't, the standard is verifiability over notability. --Myles Long 14:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• strong keep The single most important annual event for the demoscene. Also, as mentioned by several others, this event has been noticed by many outside of the demoscene and as such, easily obtainable information on Breakpoint is of general interest. If this entry cannot be kept, it MUST be merged into another article. /DevL 23:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• keep please it is notable beyond the niche and verifiable in major german news sources too Yuckfoo 00:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep This event is highly, highly notable in Germany and as such, most coverage of it is by German media. It is funded by major American technology companies such as Intel, ATI. If that's not enough then Hasbro's sponsorship of Botcon is pointless and you should vote to delete that as well. --Sodium N4 00:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• keep - per alkivar. popular, well known demoscene party --61.114.193.19 14:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.