Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Sturm

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Merge and redirect to KTCK. Deathphoenix ʕ 17:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Sturm

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The article has virtually no encyclopedic content, and the sources are blogs... with one link to the radio station which, apparently, employs him. - Motor (talk) 21:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I feel I need to interject for a moment to explain a point of wikipedia policy. The criteria for information in wikipedia is actually not truth. That's right - it doesn't matter if something is true. What matters is if it's verifiable. Please read the policy on verification before commenting. --Bachrach44 01:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Well, unlike myself, and the writer of this article, you obviously do not live in the Dallas area, which is why you don't know who he is or any factual information about him. Arbinado 21:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• This article is on a very popular Dallas radio figure. One source is the blog of the person in question. The other is his official radio show website. And one about the radio station which yes, apparently indeed, does employ the man. Let's hope that somebody whose spelling of words like "rumor" would strongly indicate that he lives nowhere near Dallas, TX, wouldn't be so arrogant as to think that simply because he's never heard of this man in his infinitely small section of the universe, that obviously in his mind Bob Sturm is not Wikipedia worthy. Could the article use a little retouching? Perhaps. But let's look at new articles with an open mind, not a "delete first, ask questions later" policy. - Monosylab1k (talk) 21:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: I think you'll find that "delete first" is the exact opposite of what happened here -- as an examination of the page history will show. - Motor (talk) 22:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: An examination of the page history indicates that this page hadn't been created for even 20 minutes before you started bombing it with attempts to have it deleted. Take a look homey. - Monosylab1k (talk) 22:13, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

  comment actually, the article was created at 09:46, and then first flagged for AFD at 16:21. That's about a 6.5 hour delay. --Bachrach44 01:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep this article! The edits that mr. Motor tried to make to the page show exactly the fact that he has no idea who the Sturminator is and that he has no clue what he's talking about when he says that this page should be deleted. - Djshadowfan 22:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Note Second edit by brand new user. Fan1967 00:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This page is loaded with nonsense. JohnM4402 01:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: And what proof exactly do you have to claim that the page is loaded with nonsense? Have you listened to the station long enough to have heard the accounts listed in the article? Do you have any clue who Bob Sturm is? (personal attack removed) I find your involvement here to be useless and myopic. - Monosylab1k (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment You should probably read the article on Civility.JohnM4402 22:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

    Comment And perhaps you can take a gander at (personal attack removed). Good day sir. --Monosylab1k 00:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Additionally, the stance on this article is grossly hypocritical. There is an apalling lack of sources cited for the Bill Parcells page among many, many others, and yet no stink is being made of that. Every word of this article is taken from multiple sources that can't always be referenced seeing as how they were made over the airwaves of the miracle known as radio broadcasting, if you'd like to peruse the Ticket archives to prove me wrong then feel free. The attempts to delete this page are a clear example of Wiki-blowhards abusing their power. - Monosylab1k (talk) 01:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Different standards apply for a famous coach and a local DJ unknown outside his area. We don't need sources to tell us that the head coach of an NFL team is notable. Fan1967 13:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep this page or you will suffer much like the fans of the Spurs of San Antonio are doing.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.160.214.44 (talk • contribs).
  • Note New user... probably just heard Bob Sturm read this article over the air and thought it would be funny to come on here and comment. JohnM4402 20:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• You should definitely KEEP this page!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.37.213.243 (talk • contribs).

• While this page is no doubt tongue in cheek to a large extent, the basics of the information are indeed accurate and, at least, true to the nature of the man, the show he runs, and the station he works for. Anyone who listens to KTCK will enjoy this article greatly. As for the rest, who cares. ... Isn't fun to be able to laugh a little bit?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.69.197.111 (talk • contribs).

  Who cares? I care. Wikipedia is not a joke repository. FYI, Bob Sturm just read his entire article over the air on The Ticket here in Dallas, told everyone where the article was located, and told everyone that it was nominated for deletion. We will be seeing "votes" from his listeners from this air time. I can see that we already have had some contributions by some of his listeners.JohnM4402 20:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Merge into KTCK Once the article has been cleared up from POV and uncited claims removed (as per WP:BLP) there's not a great deal left, and can be easily be fit in a short paragraph about hosts in KTCK (Which also probably needs trimming, by that's a different story) Regards, MartinRe 20:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Check the edit history of the author of this article. You'll find bio articles have been created for everyone who works at the station. Fan1967 20:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Oy, you're right. There's quite a lot of AfDing to be done, I suppose (and, of course, some significant culling of the KTCK article). Joe 06:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment The alternative is to create an article for every DJ and radio host on every station in the English-speaking world. Fan1967 14:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep since it related to Dan McDowell and I said keep there. Should be consist and if keep one keep both --MarsRover

• merge to KTCK. The majority of the page is unverifiable, jokes, and unencyclopedic content. Take the paragraph or two which is actually useful (from all the KTCK DJs), and merge to the main page. --Bachrach44 15:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.