Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Simcock

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The result of the debate was KEEP. —Korath (Talk) 03:49, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Simcock

Bob Simcock is a former New Zealand politician and garners about 741 hits on google. [1] Is there a "bar" to determine notability for inclusion of politicians on Wikipedia, or are they all inherently noteworthy? GRider\^talk 23:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• They're all inherently notable. Keep. --Centauri 01:20, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong disagree on the above. There are far too many politicians in this world for them all to be notable. This one is marginally notable, imho, since he's part of a nation government rather than a local council. Radiant! 21:22, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

Strong disagree on the above. The number of politicians in the world is irrelevant to this or any other discussion on "notability". --Centauri 00:24, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The way I see it, is that a category of people (such as actors or politicians or whatever) is probably notable as a group, but the people in there aren't notable as individuals. Within the group, there are usually certain people that stand out as the leaders, or the famous ones, or the misfits. Those are notable within their group and should be included in WP. Few individuals are notable simply because they are part of a group, and the larger the group, the less likely that is. In other words, the more politicians there are, the less the likelyhood that they all are notable simply by virtue of being a politician. Radiant! 09:19, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

• All politicians are certainly not notable. This guy appears to have been a member of the Parliament of New Zealand, making him as notable as any member of the US House of Representatives, I suppose, so a marginal keep from me. -R. fiend 07:38, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. He held elected office at a national level. I've come across articles on plenty of such people who would have to be deleted if this one was. Trilobite (Talk) 10:28, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Held elected office at national level of a reasonably sized country. I believe New Zealand held these elections under some form of proportional representation, but a quick google for the lists suggests he was somewhere in the middle of the party lists of MPs, so clearly not their least valued MP. Equivalent to about 9000 votes (according to [2], and if having a readership of 5000 qualifies an author, having 9000 votes in an election must do it. Average Earthman 14:16, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - David Gerard 23:16, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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