Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blaqk Audio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus, defaulting to keep. Many of the 'Keep' arguments are not terribly strong, but the point that it appears to meet WP:MUSIC is well made. While sourcing could be improved, it does seem likely that more reliable sources will be available in the reasonably near future. Shimeru 16:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blaqk Audio

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Not notable per WP:MUSIC, no third-party, reliable sources. RJASE1 ^Talk 06:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. blaqk audio is awesome!
• Delete, maybe even speedy. When all your sources are your own Myspace, your own blogs and your own web site, you're likely not notable. Realkyhick 06:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Blaqk Audio certainly is notable - it's a project run by two members of AFI, a band that has reached the number one spot within the United States, and garned considerable attention elsewhere. Frontman Davey Havok is a notable figure. That, I believe, satisfies the criterion that a notable band "Contain at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable."

The Blaqk Audio project has been bubbling underground for around six years. Entering Blaqk Audio into google heralds [over 26,000 Results]. They have, as of this post, [10,041 myspace friends]. Their first song, released only eleven days ago, has achieved almost ninety thousand hits on their [Myspace]. The release of that song has been documented on many other sites not run and maintained by the band members: [1], [2], [3], [4] are all examples. I appreciate that it does not satisfy the criteria in that the band has not released a studio album yet, but Havok himself has stated that the album should be released in the summer of 2007. At the very least, this should form part of the AFI page, but then it will only need to be re-expanded when the album is released.

It's worth noting (per the suggestions under AfD Wikietiquette) that I am currently the primary author of the article (although I did not create it.) I appreciate that I'm new to Wikipedia and I don't understand how everything is run, but I do believe that this is a useful article, and one that will continue to grow and prove useful. Mnesimache 07:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Agreed that article should be kept. Blaqk Audio is signed to Interscope Records, as stated by the Administrator of the Official AFI Message Board and the Official AFI fanclub, the Despair Faction, meaning that an album will be released in due time. In addition to what Mnesimache has mentioned, this project has been predetermined and expected for quite some time, portraying its longevity. It has been hosted on VH1.comin 2003, and again in 2004, provided by MTV News. Punknews.org has also posted various updates on Blaqk Audio project, including mentions in September 2003 (referring to an article in Rolling Stone), February 2007, and again in March 2007. Furthermore, the project has been mentioned in various other printed magazines, including Alternative Press (June 2006 issue) and Guitar World (August 2006 issue). Regardless, even if it is decided that this article should be deleted, it will definitely be reposted once the CD is released and once the project is further noted by the media. Stellaaa 17:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)— Stellaaa (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I'd like to further point out Blaqk Audio's credibility by linking to Blaqk Audio merchandise offered by Cinderblock, a major music artist merchandise company that sells products for a wide variety of other creditable bands (see list here). Ergo Blaqk Audio is a legitimate project. Stellaaa 17:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - NN, and no doubt about that. David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 21:50, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete promo/fancruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 01:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep The Article!In my oppinion the article now gives a lot of information about Blaqk Audio, the begining of the project, the new song, the upcoming album.It also hasa paragraphs, external links and references.It's a good article.Also Blaqk Audio will be very successful project and should have its own article in wikipedia.Xr 1 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep.This article should definitely be kept. It has improved greatly since it was first created. As the above users stated, this page will just be recreated once the album comes out. The group does have notable members. This article is useful because it provides information. It is not just some fan created article with just spam; the info is presented a knowledgable way. I agree with Mnesimache in that the article should at least be moved to the AFI page. Lizzysama 23:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep See other comments for my reason why. DavidJJJ 12:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Discounting myspace and blogs as reliable sources, we are left only with a non-independent press release and an article in Rolling Stone that only mentions Blaqk Audio trivially. I was unable (in a cursory search) to find other sources to prove the subject's notability. -- Black Falcon 22:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.