Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhaskar Hande

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The result was delete. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bhaskar Hande

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Artist and poet who fails WP:BIO. Article created by User:Bhaskarhande, so WP:COI too; and it's been tagged for notability since Jan. I've brought it to AFD in case it adds anything to discussion of Wikipedia:Notability (artists). Mereda 10:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. -- Mereda 10:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Mereda 07:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, the number of pubs lead towards notability, however number of redlinks that popped up throughout the article was surprising. Then "Maharashtra Prize" has surprisingly few ghits. More investigation required in light of COI. John Vandenberg 12:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep for now, we need more information about the notability of the Maharashtra Prize before being able to make a informed decision. As far as I can gather it is an award from the Bombay Art Society and presented by the governor of Maharashtra annually. The point is that I have absolutely no idea what the entry and awarding criteria are. Alf photoman 16:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete in view of information given by utcursch Alf photoman 14:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep has done international exhibitions and is author or co-author of several books. The mentioned award should also be investigated as annual awards by relevant art societies add to a person's notability. Mgm|^(talk) 08:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Doing international art exhibitions and authoring three books doesn't make on notable -- what matters it the notability of works. The article, Bhaskar Hande's sites[1][2][3][4] or Google results don't establish the notability of the art works, the books or the project ("Your form is my creation"). The article doesn't mention what is "Maharashtra Prize"; even if we assume that it is same as the "Governer of Maharashtra Prize and medal" (which I doubt), it alone doesn't indicate notability -- the prize is one of the 18 prizes awarded by The Bombay Art Society every year. It is not a major award that makes one a deserving candidate for a Wikipedia article (although in addition with other sources, it would add to notability). The burden of establishing notablity, providing references lies on the creator of the article. The article has been tagged for long -- unless there are secondary, reliable sources, this should be deleted as a WP:COI case. utcursch | talk 13:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Utcursch and others. It would help to know who published the 3 books - if a big publisher I might change my mind, or if press mentions were produced (harder in asia I know). Just to be clear, he seems definitely not notable as an artist, so we are talking about him as a poet only I think. Johnbod 01:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment -- I'm also keen to work out who those publishers are, but it is of less relevance as it is his art that he is notable for, so I will first be tackling the list of exhibitions. John Vandenberg 22:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 02:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. It is as an Indian artist that he would be notable for; "Your Form is My Creation" is almost certainly not only a book -- it was a visual work, but I havent spent time to nail that one down yet. He has attended two respected Art academies (the redlinks I was initially worried about have been fixed). I have added more content & sources, including Bios which list all of the exhibitions. John Vandenberg 22:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment - thanks for that extra info, which rather firms up my opinion for deletion. He has had, apparently, only one solo Exhibition, in Dortdrecht. "Respected art acamemies"s around the worls produce hundreds, if not thousands, of graduates every year, most of whom never become notable. A book/catalogue of his prints has been published by a gallery, and he has been on Dutch TV once. It's not enough. Johnbod 02:17, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete The article has to contain validation of notability. At present it does not, and I don't think there is enough achievement to be able to find more information to do so. The Blackheath Gallery shows appear to feature him as one of several artists in a commercial gallery group show.[5] This establishes his credentials as a practicising professional perhaps, but not someone who in any way stands out from that level to achieve notability. Tyrenius 00:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, after two days of searching for information and changing my mind twice due to conflicting information I will stay with delete. Mr. Hande can, at some point be a very notable artist but that would be challenging WP:Crystal Alf^Photoman 00:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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