Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernward Joerges

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. Elle vécut heureusement _{toujours dorénavant} (Be eudaimonic!) 06:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bernward Joerges

I gave this article the benefit of the doubt as far as asserting the notability of this professor, but I find no evidence that he is notable. Xoloz 20:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Delete, not notable as far as I can see. --Eeee 23:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, the article isn't very informative but the person has written and/or edited enough books that I'd consider him notable. The linked site has a few under 'publications' and Barnes and Noble lists some here. I've no clue whether the books have been read by 5,000 people but I'd give it the benefit of doubt. - Bobet 00:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete POV. How do we know he actually countered the argument? Endomion 01:21, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. One does not become a professor at a German university unless one is already a researcher of some note. German professors are by definition more notable than "the average college professor" in U.S. terms. I find eight books (co-)authored or (co-)edited by him in the Swedish national library catalogue, using only the full name (Joerges,Bernward)[1], 329 hits in Google Scholar, allowing for hits using only the first name initial, and 770 page hits on Google Books for the same search. This is not Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein, but as long as we keep any 19-year old who gets payed to play baseball or soccer, any obscure musical artist with a couple of albums, or any actor with a few roles on IMDB, not to speak of various fictional characters from video games, a real professorship at a research university is a very reasonable claim to notability for academics. If the article is to be deleted because of lack of content, we should be consistent and do that with obscure professional baseball players as well (and that will never happen, as you all well know). u p p l a n d 10:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, full professor in Germany. Kappa 05:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.