Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benny Lautrup

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The result of the debate was no consensus, so keep. Mackensen (talk) 20:59, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Benny Lautrup

Benny Lautrup is an assistant professor at the University of Copenhagen. Is this a case of vanity, or notability? What are the determining factors in deciding if a professor (or assistant professor) is "notable enough"? Is google really a fair barometer? GRider\^talk 22:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Unless there is evidence that his work has caused any impact in his field. JoaoRicardo 07:44, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless more notability established than has been so far. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:04, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, expand. Megan1967 08:57, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Wrong side of the line. Wile E. Heresiarch 07:33, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Author as well? I think this makes the article borderline acceptable. 129.177.61.124 10:03, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment On the basis of the present article, it should stand or fall on the notability of the textbook. Libbie Hyman, I think, never climbed beyond the rank of "lecturer" but well deserves her article. I can't judge the textbook from this Amazon listing. Ah. http://www.lautrup.nbi.dk/continuum/ says It is to be published in "early 2005." Apparently it is not out yet. Therefore...
• Delete, advertising. Reconsider after book is published. I am very, very, very much opposed to articles that just happen to be about books, movies, software, etc. that are about to be released. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:49, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC) P. S. Impressive pre-publication comments. I like the title, it might well be a dandy book. If it's not too technical I might even want to read it. It and Lautrup might well be worthy of an article eventually. But Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
  • Thanks for finding the links. From author's website, it is (well, will be) an ordinary textbook which summarizes the topic and contains no original research. I'm sure it's a good textbook, but I don't see how it is a notable achievement. Wile E. Heresiarch 20:11, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, just for the record, Libbie Hyman's The Invertebrates, was originally intended to be a textbook, contains no original research, and is a notable achievement. So the thing is possible. Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming might be a more familliar example. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:32, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Concur with Dpbsmith. Delete Radiant! 12:10, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. An unpublished textbook is does not add up to sufficent notability. Gamaliel 18:54, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. / u p p l a n d 16:41, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) Comment: He has published considerably more than "an unpublished textbook" Look at his CV:

• 73 scientific publications in refereed journals.
• 15 scientific conference contributions.
• 4 reprinted scientific articles in antologies.
• 7 other scientific publications.
• 122 popular and semipopular articles.
• 1 popular book in Danish, English and German.
• 1 textbook

And "assistant professor" is misleading, if it is meant to imply something like an entry-level US position. He is a lektor or lecturer, which is a position where many notable researchers can remain for the duration of their career if they don't want to leave for a chair at another university. (Denmark is a small country with only two really important universities, and I can easily imagine somebody not wanting to leave Copenhagen and the Niels Bohr Institute.) / u p p l a n d 22:37, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• • The textbook is, I repeat, unpublished. The only thing resembling a "popular book" that Amazon knows about is ISBN 9971509393 Neural Networks: Computers With Intuition by S. Brunak and B. Lautrup (i.e. he's not the senior author). Amazon sales rank is #3,254,333 which is definitely non-notable. All of the other contributions indicate a very solid level of achievement in the academic world and perhaps would merit a mention in whatever would be the Danish equivalent of "Who's Who in Science and Engineering," but not an encyclopedia article.
• Keep - more notable than any Pokemon you care to name - David Gerard 23:06, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. A published (and translated) book, a reasonable number of scientific publications in refereed journals, and also having been chairman for a (small) research centre for more than 10 years makes him notable enough for Wikipedia. More notable than the average (American) professor. But just as has been suggested before, we could use a rule that is easier to apply and less prone to differences in education terminology than the "average professor test". Alarm 10:57, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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