Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beastie (roller coaster)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Please defer merge related discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beastie (roller coaster)

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Non-notable rollercoaster. Not much bigger than would be found at a fairground. camelworks^(Mclowes) 18:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Whispering 16:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep - normally I'd say delete but since almost every other ride at Alton Towers has its own entry I don't see any reason to single this one out. Iridescenti 16:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - as mentioned above, the other roller coasters at Alton Towers have their own articles, and they're mentioned in a template. Leaving this out would make the main Alton Towers article look somewhat incomplete. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - into the Alton Towers article. If Alton Towers cybersquats Wikipedia with a host of minor articles, a major merge operation might be recommendable. After all, Alton Towers is just one amusement park like dozen others. HagenUK 20:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into Alton Towers. Not notable on its own. Realkyhick 21:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Merge entire category into Alton Towers article. It's inappropriate to have an entire section here. Andy Saunders 21:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment Wouldn't it be inconsistent to merge all the rides at Alton Towers into a single article, yet allow the rides at Disneyland et al to keep their own pages? Alton Towers is very large (the second-largest amusement park in Europe) and if the content of all the individual articles were merged into one, it would be ridiculously long. Iridescenti 17:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment Just to expand on my original proposal a little, other rides at Alton Towers are notable in that they are/were World Firsts and most of them had extensive media coverage when opened. Although I agree with the above comment that an Alton Towers merge would make the article too long, I proposed a few weeks ago on Talk:Alton Towers that a separate article e.g. Notable rides at alton towers be created and all ride articles be merged into. However this is not in keeping with other theme park article formats. camelworks^(Mclowes) 18:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply to comment: An article being "too long" post-merger only says that the articles themselves needs to be pruned. I would be in favour of a merger into "Rides at Alton Towers" article, though. Andy Saunders 00:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. While the article needs some work, that in itself is not a reason to delete. Yes, the article needs work, and some references but it does not need deletion. With little work, this article would meet the notability requirements. Vegaswikian 23:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.