Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battlefield Ninjas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 12:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battlefield Ninjas

It's gamecruft and/or spam. Vanispamcruftisement? Delete. -- stillnotelf is invisible 03:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, There are other pages like it, so, don't be bias. Thanks. Look at the Battlefield 2 Entry, if you delete this, you will be deleting all the others or I will be quite angry. Save. --MrWiddim 03:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

What other pages of this sort? -- stillnotelf is invisible 04:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Bring them forth, and they will be considered on their own merits, or lack thereof. -- Saberwyn 11:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, non-notable game mod. --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 04:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:CRUFT, WP:SPAM, and WP:VSCA. Royboycrashfan 06:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Game mod written in unencyclopædic tone, WP:SOFTWARE refers.  (aeropagitica)  06:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable, etc. --moof 06:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete, non-notable game mod, gamecruft, uses first-person pronouns. JIP | Talk 10:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, Battlefieldcruft, nn, spam. --Terence Ong 11:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable, ninjas Celcius 13:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Opinions Say you found McDonalds not interesting... would you delete that? Call it advertising? No, because people love to eat artery clogging food for 1 dollar. yay. All of a sudden you get to choose who makes a wiki on a mod... quite interesting... do you have to pay to get on here? I really don't understand... --MrWiddim 00:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Finding McDonalds interesting isn't really the point; you could still establish the notability of such an organization easily, even using the fairly harsh guidlines in WP:CORP. Not really a good example for comparison. You've been given quite a bit of feeback above; perhaps modifying your article or asking some more specific follow-up questions would help? Kuru ^talk 01:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Mcdonalds is a multinational corporation with resteraunts in almost every nation on the planet, with a yearly profit in the billions and close to half a million employees in the United States alone. By comparison, this is a modification of a single game, which has been in progress for over a year now, and has ten volunteers working on it. I'm sure it's going to be an excellent mod, but until the mod meets one or more of the criteria listed at the Wikipedia:Notability (software) guideline, and infromation can be provided from a reliable third-party source, it doesn't belong here. -- Saberwyn 01:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Apprently, size matters for you. non-notable is an opinion and seems unfit for such a facutal site. Just because a person does not like the notion of a ninja, does not make something, non-notable. Spam it is not, please other smaller modifications have been listed here without doubt. (US Intervention a small modification not talked about in the BF2 community. I sense some favoritism...) I see not the fairness. --MrWiddim 01:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• As it stands, and at this point in time, the mod does not appear to meet the requirements of the Wikipedia:Notability (software) guideline, and as it is still in production, also appears to violate the 'crystal ball' section of the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not official policy. If evidence showing how the mod meets the abovementioned guideline and policy, the article will be considered in a more favourable light. If there are other mods that you do not believe meet these criteria, bring them forth and let the community decide on each article's merits, or lack thereof. -- Saberwyn 01:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• Look at the Battlefield 2 page. I have no time to argue with the closed minded - http://www.infinityrealms.net - our Developer http://www.cataclysmicstudios.com - Our Producer. Please, look at the other mods and find them the same as ours, we actually might have a more wiki-esque description...

I just did. All I see are two websites claiming direct ties to the development of this project. They are not the people to turn to for information on the notability of this project. If you could provide references to newspaper or gaming magazine articles claiming grand things for this project, then there would be no problems on keeping it.

And as for the "That piece of shit is on Wikipedia, My article is vastly superior to that piece of shit, therefore, my article should be kept"... it doesn't work that way. Until it is proven that this mod meets the criteria of the various policies and guidelines noted above by various users, it stands a very good chance of deletion. But I will say it again, if there are other articles that you believe do not meet the abovementioned criteria, bring them forth, and we will consider those articles on their own merits (or lack thereof), just as we are considering this article on its own merits. -- Saberwyn 01:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Battlefield 2 mods contains similar articles, if someone wants to vet them (pun intended) -- stillnotelf is invisible 03:34, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

And in retrospect, Saberwyn already knows that, because he added the category to the Battlefield Ninjas article...oops! -- stillnotelf is invisible 14:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Delete, the gaint banner is clearly an ad, the link to the main site is the first thing on page, this is spam.--Dp462090 | Talk | Contrib | 03:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

What banner? What link? --MrWiddim 23:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The ones you removed here -- stillnotelf is invisible 23:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks better? I'm just trying to please you, I am not advertising, just teaching. (I could care if you look at the history ;p) --MrWiddim 01:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. My apologies if I sounded snarky. -- stillnotelf is invisible 01:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Lol, sorry If I got mad, I was just trying to be like the other mods... --MrWiddim 03:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.