Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baron Alexis de Rédé

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep Eluchil404 09:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baron Alexis de Rédé

Baron Alexis de Rédé (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

• Delete: I can see no clear indication of his notability in this article. I searched Google and it just throws up this site and mirrors. Fails WP:Notability----Vintagekits 01:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You searched for the wrong thing! He's Alexis von Rosenberg, Baron de Rede, not Baron Alexis de Rede. So the article should be renamed, as had been discussed some time ago. --Couter-revolutionary 02:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep: Baron de Rede, although not famous to the public at large was very well known in certain circles of society in London, New York and Europe in general, he was famous for his ball at the Hotel Lambert. As an aesthete (art collector &c.) he is of enough renown for inclusion but, further to this, he is a prominent diarist, his collections have been published and are available to purchase. --Couter-revolutionary 01:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I too searched Google, this is what I got [1]...pages from the DT, the New York Social Diary and from Sotheby's--Couter-revolutionary 01:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Not as important as Tony Hawke, needless to say. May I add that in 2003 Baron de Redé was appointed a commandeur of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres: recipients must have "significantly contributed to the enrichment of the French cultural inheritance", according to the Order's guidelines. Wikipedians may not agree. Someone has plastered the article with ^{[citation needed]}.--Wetman 02:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Not clear notability has been established, obituaries typically cover a broader swath of people than those who get coverage while living. But there's enough to suggest notability could be established with a little more digging. --Shirahadasha 03:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Really notable people who are subjects of Recent Articles are mentioned in "did you know". ...such as Rebecca Twigley.
• Must keep: Notability is easily proven e.g. (from my quick search) mainly by A, B, C, D (French educational TV emission about him and one other figure); and also by e Financial magazine translated excerpt: ..."the take-over of the London bank Leopold Joseph & Sons, with Alexis de Rede, a bizarre figure of the trans-Atlantic jetset, as companion."), f, g, h — and I didn't even try looking for sources with his proper name.
  Suggest using some of the provided links as sources in the article (partially already done by several others) and remove the {{unreferenced|date=November 2006}}-tag, to prevent further criticism. Still, I wish someone going through the 'trouble' of putting up an AfD would first do the most elementary verification: improving the article is then about as little trouble and saves other peoples' time. — SomeHuman 19 Jan 2007 05:04 (UTC)
• KeepThe article is about an important self important man in European social circles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Isaac Crumm (talk • contribs) 05:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
• Keep, I do see some sources here and I hope to see even more with a possible expansion. This person meets notability slightly, but still deserves an article on Wikipedia. Notability can be established even further if article is further expanded. Terence Ong 11:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete: "She's in parties" is not the same as "she's in film," and this fellow, so far, is only in parties. The article is long on celebration and short on effect. Being a scenester is not enough by itself. Utgard Loki 15:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

His memoirs really are quite famous. They are regarded as being of a very high quality.--Couter-revolutionary 15:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

If someone would be WP-notable merely by his appearances at parties, he might be a greater artist than many appearing in films ;-) — SomeHuman 21 Jan 2007 09:08 (UTC)

• Strong keep. As above. I question the motives behind the person who put this article up for deletion; he does not appreciate he is thoroughly POV. - Kittybrewster 17:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment - question my motives? have a look at the article before I put it up for deletion! - enough said!--Vintagekits 19:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep It doesn't matter why someone meets WP:V, only that they do. House of Scandal 12:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Seems to appear in enough verifiable sources, could dowith more detail though Alci12 13:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - just needs improving Weggie 20:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.