Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balearic Anticolonialist Group

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Balearic Anticolonialist Group

Was nominated for speedy. Reason given was "Non-notable political group. Possible merge if appropriate article is found? Google shows no results". -- Scott e^iπ 05:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Grup d' Alliberament de Balears gets two hits on Spanish-language sites. User:Zoe|^(talk) 05:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep: There has to be an understanding that organizations that folded well before www was launched. This group was a clandestine movement during the Franco regime. Limited avaibaility of info on the web is thus explainable. Still, it was a separate political entity and deserves a separate article. Possibly also, it would be good if someoen savvy in Catalan could have a look at the name. Perhaps its missspelled, and thus resulting in low hits. --Soman 08:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: This group is called by a different name, Grup Anticolonialista Balear, on various Catalan language forums. The Spanish version of that name, Grupo Anticolonialista Balear, gets some hits on sites listing abbreviations. --Soman 09:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is a case where the number of Google hits doesn't present enough evidence to determine whether something is notable or non-notable. —Sesel 17:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

There should be a book or essay that can be listed as a source though. Still I think I'd also go for keep for the reasons you state.--T. Anthony 08:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless verified and properly referenced. Stifle 00:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Sticking with my Speedy Nomination. -^demon 15:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • The reason given is not a valid reason for speedy deleting an article. Please familiarise yourself with WP:CSD before nominating an article for speedy deletion again. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: Question 1 is whether anyone actually disputes the very existance of this group? The way I see it there are, from each other completly separate, websources confirming the that such a group had existed. The speedy deletion nomination was posted when the article was still at Liberation Group of the Balears. Question 2 thus becomes the issue of notability. IMHO any political organization that operates in the public sphere is notable, because it operates in a context of interaction with other political organizations and currents. Of course there is a possibility to delete obvious frivolous constructions, which are a phenomena of the internet age (for example, check dalitstan.org for a number of obviously imaginary outfits). On the Swedish wikipedia there was a discussion on whether to delete the article sv:Högerpartiet de Konservativa, which obviously was four guys and website. But I don't really see any such aspect being raised in this particular discussion. This article obviously needs expansion, perhaps putting a notice on the Catalan wikipedia to assist with providing info on the group. --Soman 17:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment: Moreover I find this group notable in the sense that they promoted a line in the national question that differed significantly from the major trends at the time. The virtually permanent debate on pan-Catalan identity versus provincial identities (like Valencian/Balear language, etc.) comes into play. More deserved to be written on wikipedia about these issues, and in this case about the national project of PCE(i) and GAB. It is already noted that PCE(i), which essentially emerged out of the Catalan left did propose a line in the question of nationality (amongst other thing designing its own national banner). In short, contribute rather than delete. --Soman 17:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.