Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aveda

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Someone tagged the article with {{advertisement}}, which is just what it needs. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 00:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aveda

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I posted a {{db-spam}} on this article, that deletion was contested and some improvements have since been made to the article. In my opinion the article still fails Wikipedia:Spam all the "references" are links to primary sources and as such the article fails WP:A. Additionally the article would appear to have conflict of interest issues and does not appear to meet WP:NPOV expectations I leave it to the Wikipedia community to consider. Jeepday 21:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. I added some references. If a company is sold for US$300 million, then it is almost certainly notable, and references should be easy to find. --Eastmain 22:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Aveda is clearly a notable company. Article needs work, not deletion. --NMChico24 22:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep Definitely notable. AfD isn't cleanup. --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 22:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I was surprised to see the emphasis on the salons and spas in the articles. I would have expected more emphasis on the products the company manufactures and sells, especially because they are sold in nearly every salon in the United States and not just the Aveda salons. I'm not a beautician or an industry insider, but I expect that there may be someone on wikipedia who is more knowledgeable than me who can improve this article? --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 23:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Okay, so someone left this comment on my talk page: I'm not sure why you were surprised to see information about the Salons, and no, you cannot sell Aveda products LEGALLY without being affiliated with them. You must be an Experience, Concept, or Lifestyle salon in order to LEGALLY carry Aveda products. I am a representative for the company, and happen to know this firsthand. Aveda is not sold in every salon in the United States, to say so is an exaggeration. Maybe it would be best if you let the beauticians/Salon owners like us make the facts known, since you obviously did no research to come to your conclusion. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.177.104 (talk) 03:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC). I had called my esthetician sister (who promptly made fun of how I pronounced "Aveda") before making the comment to see if other salons could sell the products, since I've seen Aveda products but I've never been into one of their stores, and I guess I misunderstood. Anyway, the article still looks like an ad and still needs cleanup. --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 03:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• weak keep This particular product line is probably noteworthy enough for an article, judging by the newspaper references, which are sufficient for ATT. The previous comments are a magnificent warning against doing our own OR.DGG 06:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • • • I believe that this article should be kept...if someone could please help me to figure out how it is written like an advertisement, I would appreciate it. I had originally added alot of information about the company/partnerships/guidlines, but another salon changed the page to the advertising form. I know that it isn't perfect, but I can't do it alone. This company had done alot for the environment and has been highly successful; please help improve it, don't just delete it. Thank you.
• Keep and nuke all of the advert copy.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.