Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annieville Elementary School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Y.Ichiro (会話|+|投稿記録|メール) 17:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Annieville Elementary School

I am also nominating the following schools for deletion for the same reason. --Danielrocks123 17:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Delete. Elementary schools are not notable. --Danielrocks123 17:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete all. School articles like this are the shame of Wikipedia. Our critics point at them, and their endless trivialities about the most utterly banal things, and their endless duplication of "facts" which are the same for every one of millions of identical schools across the world, as evidence that Wikipedia is good only for children. They are essentially wrecking our dreams of gaining some credibility as a serious encyclopedia. Do you see hundreds of articles about individual elementary schools in Britannica or Encarta? Nope. Think there could be a reason for that? Hmmm, I wonder. — Haeleth Talk 18:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
    • If you're ashamed of Wikipedia, and prefer those other encyclopedias, you should go buy them. They need the sales. People aren't buying enough, because they get what they need here instead. Why on Earth are you editing an encyclopedia with over a million articles, if you hate the existance of those very articles? --Rob 18:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: I don't see the need for WP to pander to our detractors. Besides, their main cause of derision is the edit this page link on every page, something which is WP's major distinction and strength. Having articles that neither encyclopedia will touch is a part of WP's charm and a major distinction between them. I don't see a need for WP to turn into a clone of either. hateless 18:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Wikipedia is the world's most widely used reference site. If Haeleth has some actual evidence to support his statement, he should produce it.Capitalistroadster 21:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Unless an elementary school has a claim to fame it doesn't need an article here. They are often carbon copies of each other with little if anything to set them apart. --Crossmr 18:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, absent a Wikipedia:Schools policy or guideline, schools are generally notable. It doesn't seem appropriate to delete schools on a piecemeal basis when the community has not arrived at consensus on a policy or guideline. A policy discussion seems to be erupting here but this isn't an appropriate place for it to occur. Accurizer 18:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • keep, as per precedent. Antmoney85 18:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, schools are notable per precedent. hateless 18:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, per precedent. Stu ’Bout ye! 19:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. — Rebelguys2 talk 19:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all per nomination. Schools have no inherent notability. No individual notability or importance for any of these schools has been suggested or advanced. That said, I still don't like these mass noms, and I'd be willing to reconsider any individual article where someone can show verifiable proof that any particular school listed here is notable or distinct enough from the average school to merit an article (though I don't suppose that will actually be necessary, nor will it likely influence the eventual outcome).--Isotope23 20:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete unless any of these schools have distinguishing characteristics such as teaching methods, notable founder, etc. The local elementary school is about as notable as the local PTA, the local pizza place, that one intersection down the road that doesn't have a stop sign but ought to, etc. Opabinia regalis 20:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep em all as I am against mass nomination of articles. If you wish to argue for a new policy on elementary schools, do it elsewhere. Capitalistroadster 21:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • keep all of these please and argue about policy elsewhere Yuckfoo 22:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per usual... Rich Farmbrough 23:00 13 June 2006 (GMT).
  • Delete them all as per nom Bwithh 23:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Reluctant Weak Delete. My reluctance isn't that I'd be sorry to see these articles go, but because of the broad-block nomination. I'd rather be making a strong statement one way or another. While I believe schools are not inherently notable, and there is no policy on keeping or deleting schools, I also concede that some schools may, for very specific reasons, be notable. Until there is a firm policy, I'd prefer to consider each article on its own merits, notability, or non-notability. That all said, none of these articles appears to be about an encyclopedic or notable school. Agent 86 02:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Canadianshoper 03:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep All these schools are notable. CalJW 05:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Either merge into the appropriate district article (I believe this is School District 37 Delta, but they were starting to blur together) or weak keep and expand. I continue my belief that elementary/middle schools' claim to notability is weaker than that of high schools, but I also prefer more info than just a list entry with no further info. Also, block noms of this type are unhelpful, some of these had more info than others. Please start a policy discussion off AfD if you want to change what seems to be current consensus on these articles. BryanG(talk) 06:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • keep or merge all Per near agreement at WP:SCH, keep or merge all. Merges do not require AFD. Hipocrite - «Talk» 14:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per CalJW Thankyoubaby 15:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep How do we know that there isn't one that's exceptional in here? Check them all? No thanks. Golfcam 17:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Keep as per Golfcam. YUL89YYZ 18:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm going to say the same thing I say every time schools come up on AFD now: I don't particularly like the established consensus in favour of elementary and high school articles, but the consensus is what it is and there's no particular reason to single Canadian schools out as somehow less notable than schools elsewhere. If you'd like to pitch for a rethink of the whole shebang, start a policy discussion (and good luck trying), but in the absence of that there are no valid reasons to treat these differently than other schools. Keep. Bearcat 00:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Pardon my ignorance, but where can I find the established consensus on elementary and high school articles? As far as I've found, there isn't one, but if there is, I may have to reconsider how I respond to these school nominations. Agent 86 20:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep the lot and allow for organic growth. Bahn Mi 00:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep for all. Well established precedent has elementary schools being given their own pages. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. - pm_shef 03:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. It's simple, a merge gets counded as a keep so it is the right vote that results in a wrong action. WP:SCH resulted in no consensus not a justification to keep. Vegaswikian 05:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Strong precedent to include schools, notable subject.--Auger Martel 11:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Schools are considered notable, elementary or not. Jgamekeeper 11:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Schools are all important. We need more school stubs, not less. --JJay 19:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, I agree that it doesn't seem appropriate to delete schools on a piecemeal basis when the community has not arrived at consensus on a policy or guideline. I further agree that this is not the place for said policy discussion. The merge or keep and expand comment has good merit however again, this is not the place for policy discussion whether that policy is pro- or anti-deletion. BigNate37 06:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. If students' interest in knowledge is increased slightly because they can find their school here, then let Wikipedia err to their benefit. Deet 04:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


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