Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alkatrazz (wrestler) and others

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus - defaults to keep (all). I encourage those editors who expressed a desire to expand these stubs to do so now. No Guru 04:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alkatrazz (wrestler)

Alkatrazz (wrestler) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Also Tony Drake, Steven Lyndon, Joey Munoz, Markus Riot, Gilbert Aguilera, Tony Ramos and Lil' Cholo. Contested prods. All eight articles are sub-stubs with no references, assertions of notability or substantial information. All eight articles have gone over three weeks since their creation with no improvements. There are currently several hundred stub articles relating to professional wrestling, 483 of them biographical articles - Category:Professional wrestling biography stubs. McPhail 19:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as nominator. McPhail 15:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable wrestlers with no assertion of notability. An article should also be more than 1 sentence. TJ Spyke 21:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. RobJ1981 22:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and they should be expanded -- Alkatrazz, Munoz, Drake, and (barely) Riot, at least -- all have appeared on WSX on MTV. There are only three wrestling companies on national TV right now, and WSX is one of 'em, so I think that appearing for them is definitely notable. Karlos the Jackal 09:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - the wrestlers are all notable, why don't you expand the articles instead of deleting them? TheNewMinistry 20:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: no assertion of notability has been made in any of the articles. Many of those voting to keep the article have based this claim on the appearance of some (by no means all) of the individuals in question in a television series that aired for only three weeks and is now on hiatus. The use of a simple Google test reveals that the wrestlers in question are by no means well known - Steven Lyndon has just 458 hits. It should also be noted that TheNewMinistry created all eight articles (within the space of two hours) and thus has a vested interest in preserving them. McPhail 21:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - all have room for improvement--72.225.255.18 03:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Keep per Karlos and TheNewMinistry. Vladamire Steelwolf 07:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Simply appearing on TV (especially with that joke of a fed WSX) doesn't make someone notable (especially with the reports that MTV is about to cancel it). TJ Spyke 00:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
    • It's been confirmed that WSX has not been cancelled and was simply removed from its Tuesday timeslot. It will resume elsewhere on MTV/MTV2 in the future. TheNewMinistry 17:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Tony Drake, Delete the others Babi Slymm can be developed as he has a history on the West Coast wrestling scene, particularly PWG. Suriel1981 17:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Li'l Cholo has also been around the West Coast scene for a while. He's worked for All Pro Wrestling up and down California, and some other feds too, I believe. — Gwalla | Talk 20:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete WSX is just a small blip of the American wrestling scene, the show was on for like 4 weeks, even OVW/DSW guys are more notable than this. We can't have articles on every wrestler ever born. And there is no way that WSX was the 3rd biggest promotion in wrestling, it was short-lived, and the show wasn't even all that much about wrestling than the bands it featured. Booshakla 21:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • You apprently never watched WSX - the bands were only featured for 30 seconds of each episode. TheNewMinistry 21:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The article as it stands is virtually useless, but if people don't expand on articles of history, no matter how small they are, Wikipedia will never expand to its full potential. Even I've heard of Alkatrazz. Can some people spend their time expanding articles instead of deleting them...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IBHMC (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
  • Agreed. I could expand Babi Slymm fairly easily. But I'm not going to bother if everyone's attitude is just "WSX is crap, lets delete it all". Suriel1981 12:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete all, per nomination. Manager Of Champions 05:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete One sentence does not make it an article. Add more info or delete it. User:Killswitch Engage
  • If this article remains I'll personally expand Tony Drake. It's a shame nobody has tried to make a go of those articles before just slapping a delete nomination down. Suriel1981 18:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment: the articles remained unimproved for several weeks before being nominated for deletion. Since being nominated, they have yet to be improved further. McPhail 21:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
      • If it stays I said I'll do it. Otherwise why waste my time? Suriel1981 21:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.