Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agnes (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to Dave Douglas (drummer). —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-08 13:57Z

[edit] Agnes (band)

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Per Wikipedia:Notability. Auroranorth 12:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, per WP:N. Auroranorth 12:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - there appears to be no attempt to communicate with the article's main editor or recent editor to allow them the opportunity to either expand or substantiate any notion of notability SatuSuro 13:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I have posted a notice on their talk page to let them know. DanielT5 19:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, the article's been tagged as part of this process - consider them notified. Bobanny 18:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I am the main editor of the page. Now, I don't understand why there is a sudden urge to delete this article. I have discussed with others before when it was considered for deletion, and it was decided that the article was worth keeping because the band is the side project of the drummer of a very popular band. I will gladly expand upon it if you will allow me to. The artist is currently doing more songs for the project. I hope we can work something out here to keep the article around. God Bless.RoryS89 01:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)RoryS89
  • Comment Please make sure your 'decisions' reflect consensus. Auroranorth 06:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep with option to review if WP:N not sufficiently addressed at a future time (but not, like, two days or two weeks or something - sources can take a while to find sometimes). It seems the issue is more that it doesn't *assert* notability, rather than that it doesn't *have* notability. Orderinchaos78 03:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment No, I truly believe it's a non-notable pet project, and not asserting notability is often a sign that it's not. But I could be wrong. Looking at the article for Dave Douglas (drummer), it's pretty stubby and kind of fluffy, and it would seem merge the two would do a better service to the subject.Bobanny 09:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I just think someone could explain to me exactly what they want me to do to keep it around, because in cases like these, I'm always told all these things that don't lead to a direct answer. No offense to any of you guys, but I just think that the deletion policies on Wikipedia need a little more explaining. I don't see why there's always a rush to delete pages that don't seem notable enough. But hey, if you think combining the two articles is a good idea, I'm all for it.RoryS89 22:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)RoryS89
• Delete: If this band is so notable where are the reliable sources that conform to WP:V?A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 17:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep: Not sure on reliabilty of amazon but I can go with the CD Review.A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 13:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: As for what to do to keep the article around, read WP:V and introduce sources, preferably inline citations, to verify the information and establish its notability. Otherwise I wouldn't be surpirsed if it gets deleted.A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 17:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Rory, there are central core policies that you need to read: Wikipedia:Notability (in this case Wikipedia:Notability (music)) and Wikipedia:Attribution. They basically say that you need to have 2 reliable resources independent of the subject that assert that the subject is notable. And that there are criteria that indicate minimum thresholds for inclusion. Royalbroil ^T : C 03:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep or at least merge I added 2 reliable sources that talk about the album, and the side projects that are contained on it, along with their history. Meets or nearly meets notability standard "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such. " I think that the future expected recordings are enough to break this article out of Douglas' main article. Royalbroil ^T : C 03:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.