Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adim

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adim

• I can see no non-wikipedia based page in Google that defines this person. Markh 15:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Update see also new related afd for Kianto Bwithh 02:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Very weak keep. I found this[1] and this[2] within a few seconds; neither are Wikipedia based. He appears to be a legitimate figure in Egyptian mythology and/or history, but is he notable? I don't know, but with respect to historical items I personally tend to be a bit more lenient because there isn't often as much online about ancient historical figures as there is, say, about Katie Holmes's wedding. --Charlene 17:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I'm seeing numerous sources when doing a Google Books search. --- RockMFR 19:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Agent 86 20:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Probable hoax along with related article Budasheer. Fails WP:V anyway. Can't find reliable sources on Adim on Google (including links mentioned above - Thinkquest is "created by students from around the world as part of a competition"[3]; Encyclopedia Mythica has low barriers to article submission and questionable factchecking (sources are asked for but are not cited in the article)[4]). Google books gives a lot of false positives, but nothing an Egyptian king named Adim from around the time of the Great Flood. Zero hits on Budasheer. Single google hit on "Budashir" in a pay-locked journal (unable to assess). Egyptian Mythology and kings (and Great Flood stories) are very well documented - should be easy to get a solid fix on this supposed king. "Cave Salt water distillation secret passed on by father's ghost" anecdote sounds like baloney too . Bwithh 20:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Bwithh. Eusebeus 01:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourced per reasoning at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Budasheer. ~ trialsanderrors 06:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because of lack of verifiable source. 69.140.173.15 19:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, no source, no article, no problem. - Mailer Diablo 03:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• keep please there is at least basic documentation for this and we should be careful to call something a hoax this article was created by tuf-kat who is a long time and respected wikipedia administrator here Yuckfoo 21:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It still fails WP:V, and tuf-kat is not necessarily the hoaxer. I think its likely that tuf-kat used Encyclopedia Mythica for this wasn't realizing it was an unreliable source. Looking back at his edit history, tuf-kat created a lot of god/mythological article stubs in a short period early on - and I think he was basing this on EM. Bwithh 22:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

You are correct. I created a large number of mythology articles and stubs based around EM, and other sources too. That was back before sourcing was considered important for Wikipedia. Anyway, the vast majority have been improved and (I think) cited since, but many of what remain are perhaps hoaxes, mistakes or whatever - I can't provide any additional documentation beyond the Encyclopedia Mythica, so if that's not an acceptable source, then this should be deleted. I have no particular position myself. Tuf-Kat 23:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.