Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Keller court martial

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The result was delete. Majorly 16:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Keller court martial

Adam Keller court martial (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

No relevance at all, the one who wrote this article is Adam Keller himself. He keeps advertising himself everywhere although he's irrelevant. This is just one of thousands of trials against military evaders. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 11:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete this vanispamcruftisement Guy (Help!) 12:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - vanispamcruftisement. MER-C 12:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, yes WP:VSCA applies well here. Budgiekiller 13:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, the person himself is far from irrelevant, as the spokeperson of an important radical left organization. Google search gives 650 hits in hebrew, a lot of them from israel's three general daily newspapers.

The trial was the subject of a lot of press interest at the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.132.218.190 (talk • contribs).

This is not true. It did not have a lot of press interest, and those 650 hits - almost none of them are from Israel's three general daily newspapers. Even the ones who are from there, are mostly talkbacks mentioning him and not part of the article. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 17:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Yes, WP:VSCA clearly applies to this article.--Anthony.bradbury 22:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Possible violation of WP:AUTO, fails WP:V. Caknuck 23:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, apparent vanity article. Dragomiloff 00:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete just a simple, unimportant court-martial.-- danntm ^T _C 03:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Let's keep it. It's good and important (but can be improved)

Johnbibby 22:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep until it is clear whether the case did "have a lot of press interest" or not. It is probably impossible to find the articles from the time on the internet today, so somebody from Israel should go through the paper archives... And of course, the article must be purified and more NPOV.--Ioannes Pragensis 15:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Until citations for notability can be provided. JASpencer 11:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Having looked at this, Adam Keller certainly seems notable in himself so I think a more appropriate response would be to Rename to Adam Keller. The only article I've found from an independent source is this one in the Guardian so it's not notable in itself. JASpencer 18:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

JASpencer 18:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

If I may something for myself: I did write this article. I don't think that it is a "vanity" article, I think that the content is of general interest. It is not just "one of many court martials". As far as I know, there had not been in the Israeli armed forces' history another case of a soldier while on military service writing political graffity on 117 tanks and other military vehicles, and I don't think there were many such cases in other armies anywhere. About press coverage: I can certainly mention for example, a two-page article in "Hadashot" newspaper, which I well remember because the Prison Commander and his officers saw it before me (the officer charged with censoring prisoners' letters brought it to his office before finally delivering my wife's letter to me). And there were several articles in other newspapers, both new reports and commentaries. Adam Keller 13:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete — per all. Wizardman 19:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep — The court martial itself was notable and covered in the Israeli and Arab media at the time (before the papers went online). Kellner's act was probably ineffective, but notable and shows that Israeli society and military do not soley consist of settler thugs. Abu ali 20:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.