Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Usamah

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 15:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abu Usamah

Abu Usamah (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Fails WP:BIO. Only sourced mentioned is youtube Sefringle 00:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete has done nothing notable. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 00:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I see in the article no evidence of notability more than any other Imam might possess.--Anthony.bradbury 00:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Was involved in quite notorious story about preaching anti-Western sentiment in Birmingham, UK. Major part of a prime-time documentary programme called Dispatches Birmingham News article about TV program Fox News Story. Article could be re-written to be more NPOV though, glosses over the controversy about him. EliminatorJR ^Talk 01:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete: Non-notable. Basic searches on Google/Yahoo provide little information asserting notability. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 01:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment The 6th hit on Google for his name is this story from the UK Daily Mail (major newspaper) titled "Radical Cleric praises Bin Laden". EliminatorJR ^Talk 01:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: I had my filters for certain domains to try and generate more localized links. I still don't see how this is wholly notable, though. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 05:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Actually, it looks like the article has been vandalised. The original story included quite a few links to notability, but the allegations of the Dispatches programme, etc. have been removed. I have restored this information and added the above references. Comments? EliminatorJR ^Talk 01:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per UK media coverage. Catchpole 08:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete per above. --Meno25 10:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep reasonable UK media coverage. StuartDouglas 11:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, while agreeing that Usamah has some notoriety which attributes him notability this article contains unreferenced citations (in fact most of the article consists of unreferenced citations) and I am afraid that they have to go or be referenced under WP:ATT. If after that there is still an article worthy to be kept is something that I tend to doubt Alf^Photoman 18:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The guy's got 18,000 hits on UK Google [1]. In addition to the ones referenced above, here's one from Fox News [2], one from Somali Radio Live [3], one from The Scotsman [4] ... etc. This one references the recent uncovering of the plot to behead a government minister, where the arrests were made in this fellow's bailiwick [5]. His notability is growing as the news bulletins come in. RGTraynor 18:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - The subject has been involved heavily in the press, as outlined by RGTraynor above, and certainly is notable as a result. - Erebus555 19:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I have edited the article some more, and removed most of the NPOV and unattributable information. EliminatorJR ^Talk 01:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - per Erebus555. -RiverHockey 01:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per everyone. This is a clearly notable cleric about whom articles have been written by multiple major news outlets. --Charlene 07:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, the improvements are sufficient to make the article fair and balanced, the quotations though, especially as Usamah says they are taken out of context, should be additionally referenced though. Alf^Photoman 16:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.