Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1999 Demo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete (seems the first two now redirect to the band; I see no reason to overturn this). Johnleemk | Talk 14:52, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1999 Demo, 2000 Demo and 2nd Demo

Unverifiable collection of songs, it isn't even an album. -- Perfecto 05:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as non-notable. --Perfecto 05:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. While Avenged Sevenfold is in itself a relatively popular band, I don't see any reason to keep information about their demo tapes. Every artist has had one at some point early in their career, I'd assume... why post these ones in particular? --Kinu 05:19, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Don't Delete. I've seen plenty of other band's with demos listed. It's simply to show fans more then just their more popular albums. Sort of like band history. Is there any harm in keeping them? Also, this band is verifiable. Their most recent album was certified gold recently.--Boadrummer 4 February 2006
  • Could you point out some of these demos that have individual articles? (And I'm not trying to be snide... I'm just genuinely curious, since I haven't come up on any in my searches.) --Kinu 05:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Boadrummer just did. See Category:Demo albums. I found one more: The Banjo Story. --Perfecto 05:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Blink-182 has two I belive listed. Flyswatter (album), although listed as an album, isn't. Same with their "2nd Demo". Boadrummer 2/4/06
    • I've added 2nd Demo to this nom -- I hope Kinu, Ardenn and others don't mind. --Perfecto 05:41, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't understand why they can't be useful on the website. They're band history. Also, Avenged Sevenfold has 3 releases, one of which is on a major label, and the other two are on a fairly big major label, Hopeless Records. And, they have been on a major tour recently, infact, it is in the 2nd half of it. They will also be touring in Europe soon. http://www.avengedsevenfold.com -- Boadrummer
      • I support your decision, Perfecto. Looking at Category:Demo albums, the dearth of actual articles about demo albums doesn't lend credibility, in my opinion, to keep. Also, I would actually make an exception for Flyswatter (album) or Buddha (album) by blink-182, since they were actually released or at the least "leaked" to the public. A true demo, like the original two mentioned in this AfD, are in my opinion never released to the public. These true demo albums are better mentioned on a band's or artist's History sections. --Kinu 05:52, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Allmusic says it has 874,000 albums. As I see it, we're on the way to have articles for all of them. A line could be drawn somewhere. --Perfecto 06:04, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn. Ardenn 05:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Reverting mass edit(s) by Boadrummer. DO NOT DELETE the contents of the AfD page!
  • Allow me to clarify: we appreciate you being bold and taking your own stance on the information and merging it, but there is a protocol for closing AfDs that must be followed. Please allow that to happen. This page is always kept as a historic record, in case this or a similar issue comes up again, so don't delete it for future's sake. Thanks! --Kinu 06:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: If these songs/albums/whatever stayed as demos, they weren't released to the public, therefore how can they be verifiable? Everything is here is supposed to be verifiable. --kingboyk 08:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.