Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ştefan Pelmuş

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus (defaulting to keep). Trebor 12:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ştefan Pelmuş

Ştefan Pelmuş (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Fails to meet the WP:BIO standards Ozgod 01:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep - The subject is a well-known artist in his region. The article currently doesn't meet WP:BIO, but I say give it a little time to develop.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 03:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - No justification for notability. Article has existed for six months and has not developed, beyond minor edits in that time. No hits on google, for either the artist or any of his artwork (though the latter is per a notability criteria still under debate at Wikipedia:Notability (artists). - Mocko13 03:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

  Comment "Stefan Pelmus" gets over 600 google hits (mostly in Romanian). I was not aware the article has existed for six months, but I still say "Keep". We have stubs in all categories that have been around for longer than that.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 03:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - I have taken the initiative and expanded the article and added a few references. My Romanian is not very good (actually non-existent, but Romanian is decipherable with a working knowledge of Latin and Spanish), but there is plenty more available sources for a good Romanian speaker.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 04:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete The current references in the article are really quite weak for notability. He may be a notable artist but all I can tell is he's had gallery shows. References should give a little more substance beyond a bio blurb. Pig^man_{Talk to me} 05:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep Per WilliamThweatt.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The artist has works displayed in multiple countries. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 07:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The artist's displays are public and across many (primarily non English) non-cultures, so I suggest sources will be easy to find by those familiar with the subject and languages, especially Romanian. (edit) Also, I am not familiar with the awards, but those alone might suggest notability (end edit) Also, consistent deletion of this type of article without sourcing in the native language, will lead to systemic bias. —siroχo 16:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Romanian artists are as notable as American ones Al-Bargit 17:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as an award-winning artist, whose article has been significantly improved by WilliamThweatt. -- Black Falcon 21:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - The URL linked to the last statement about his award mentions that his artwork is internationally exhibited which would meet the proposed notability guidelines for artists. Ronbo76 21:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The evidence here shows a working artist with facts that remind me of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhaskar Hande. There's an international dimension of some sort, but no expositions at notable galleries or museums; and there's an award (or two) of unknown notability. Independent evidence that he's well known in his region - as far as I can see - is as a name in a list, like [1]. So let's be consistent and delete it, without prejudice to recreation if/when better evidence is found. Mereda 14:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete, my concerns are not about the notability of the artists but about the article lacking sources and references. If we cannot reach at least WP:V in an article I strongly advocate it must be deleted regardless of the subject Alf^Photoman 14:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Mereda & Alf. No press refs at all Johnbod 03:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete reluctantly despite the extra work on the article there are no news articles or other published works (magazines, paragraphs in books) about him. He may have shown internationally, but he doesn't meet the criteria for notability. The Gh. Patrascu award is given at the National Fine Arts Biennial Exhibition in Romania. But I couldn't find a news story about Pelmus and the award. --Bejnar 22:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.