Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/'Barbara Biggs'

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The result was Userfied as obvious autobiography. Guy (Help!) 13:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Barbara Biggs'

'Barbara Biggs' (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Not verifiable, seems to have a biased POV and includes original work. See original author's username, seems coincidental. Alan.ca 05:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

• comment The article didn't make it easy for me, but I see notability here. Perhaps it's unsalvageable in its current form, though?--Dmz5 06:42, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

• I know what you mean, I can see how it may be possible, but we can't even consider notability when the information is not verifiable. I am a little more sensitive to accuracy in this case because it seems the subject is writing their own biography. May be a total farce, the user could be completely unrelated, but their contribution history suggests conflict of interest. I'm erroring on delete for this one. I also put a warning template on the new user's page.Alan.ca 06:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• For reference, the author's contribution history Special:Contributions/Barbbiggs Alan.ca 07:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• As well, please see Wikipedia:Autobiography, as it discourages this very topic.

I am Barbara Biggs, the person who has written the entry for myself. Please tell me what you suggest. I have added some links to verifiable interviews. A google search will reveal at least ten pages of interviews, articles etc about me, hopefully demonstrating that my social presence in Australia is considerable. I have added some of these links to the article. Or is it not ok to write your own? If anyone has advice on how to make it more Wikipedia friendly I would welcome it. BB.

I have just gone into the article to add more verifiable links and see that it has already been deleted. I went to quite a lot of trouble to write it and if it can be salvaged, would be good to have it back rather than start over.

• First of all, Welcome to wikipedia Barb. I did some summary reading on your web page and it seems that you have an interesting past. You may in fact meet the wp:notability guidelines, but autobiography writing is discouraged on wikipedia. You will note that I did not remove the request you had placed for someone to write an article about you. Typically this kind of discussion should take place on your user talk page. When you finish making a comment, you should end it with four ~ to sign your name. I will chat with you on the talk page.Alan.ca 08:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete This still reads like a notated bio. And given that the majority of the printed works are autobiographical/semi-autobiographical it appears that the author/subject has a need to self-promote. This t'aint the place to continue that... Sorry... but delete it. SkierRMH,08:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I'd like to be flexible but minimal notability combined with WP:COI means there's no reason to keep this article, unless it can be rewritten from verifiable sources establishing the importance of the author and/or books. --Dhartung | Talk 09:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Still getting the hang of this thang. Just replying to the comment above that my works are primarily autobiographical. My fourth book, Chat Room, ws written with the help and at the request of Victoria Police. They felt there was a strong need for a ficitonal story about the dangers in teen chat rooms. It is a fictional book for teenagers and has received widespread publicity for that reason. It is also endorsed by Australia's governmnet funded internet safety body, which is now referenced. My fifth and latest book is also not autobiographical and now has a reputable review in one of Australia's most respected finance liftouts of a major metro daily paper. Hopefully the other references will also help the article. As I've said, any other helpful hints about what could be deleted or, in terms of where sourcing is required, added. Thanks Barbara

• Barb, we understand you're new here, but you have to appreciate that encyclopedia's don't endorse people to write their own articles about themselves. I am trying to help you on your talk page, but posting this chatter here isn't going to help the cause. Alan.ca 09:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete for goodness sake. Pure spam. Barb, when you become notable, someone will write your bio here for you. -- RHaworth 13:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.