Talk:Art of Life

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[edit] Controversial piano solo?

How exactly does a piano solo come to be controversial? Ric | opiaterein 19:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Controversy There has been several different opinions regarding the meaning and purpose of the piano solo. I think it justifies it as being controversial.Himurakenshin 03:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 06:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent cleanups

Several recent changes had to be reverted:

  • As the article on extended plays states, we're dealing with an album at a runtime longer than 25 minutes. Art of Life therefore qualifies as an album.
  • The LyricWiki link did not work, somebody knowledgeable of that template should re-insert it.
  • The information regarding the album's creative process and credits was unsourced and lacked proper grammar and spelling. This kind of contitbutions does not improve an article.

Also, any controversial edits should be discussed, that's what these talk pages are for. - Cyrus XIII 19:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

  • As the article on extended plays states, we're dealing with an album at a runtime longer than 25 minutes. Art of Life therefore qualifies as an album.
Ok, but the band always said that was an EP.
  • The information regarding the album's creative process and credits was unsourced and lacked proper grammar and spelling. This kind of contitbutions does not improve an article.
Ok, I know it's unsourced but it's TRUE!! Ok, now I'm going to delete all the Dir en Grey article there's no sources about the history! =O I know a lot about X Japan you can see the spanish article it's all written by me, and it's true that Yoshiki started writting the song after recovering from injuries during the Rose & Blood tour, and yes there's a version recorded with Taiji, do I have to put the whole song here?, and the credits, come on! I have the album and if you see at the back you'll see the credits! and about the article of the live version the credits are also at the back. And if you see that the grammar is bad so fix it!! Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia!! I know that my enlgish is not good but please don't delete what I put!! Writre it in another way or correct it, but don't delete!! Thanks, take care Darkcat21 19:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Please calm down. You might want to consider that the use of multiple exclamation marks and capital letters does little to strengthen your point, same goes for re-implementing the disputed material without waiting for a discussion to take its course and/or providing citations. I do not want this to turn into an edit war, so I have put in for a third opinion on the matter. - Cyrus XIII 21:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion here is not truth, it is verifiability. Just being TRUE!! is not enough, it needs to have a citation. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 21:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I can put citations from interviews from Yoshiki and book released by the band, but just know that that is part of the X Japan history and it's a thing we all know and it's true, because of this we also need a citation that the band was disbanded in 1997, where is it? Darkcat21 22:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree, without a citation I have no way of verifiying if they really disbanded in 1997. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 22:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Darkcat21, the link you provided does not lead to the official site of X Japan's former vocalist (if that is what "Toshi official website" is meant to imply). Also, the text found in this "source" is almost entirely in Japanese. As stated by WP:V, English language sources are prefered, as most readers and fellow contributors have no way of knowing whether this page actually backs up your claims or not. - Cyrus XIII 23:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


Responding to WP:3O request:
The content additions made in the past couple days are clearly unsourced. As WP:CITE says, "Any material that is challenged and for which no source is provided may be removed by any editor." I went ahead and reverted to the version prior to these content additions to prevent anyone running afoul of the three-revert rule. Cheers! Simões (talk/contribs) 23:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to Source

Uhm, I own what I believe to be an official dvd release of the Art of Life concert. Inside is a pamphlet (in japanese and english) which confirms a fair amount of the creative process within. How exactly would I cite that, if I were to get my hands back on said dvd? Vespertilio 18:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I know, but instead you cite that Cyrus will delete it, try this WP:FN and just copy the words from the book and voilà, just look at the book who wrote it or cite as X Japan OFFICIAL biography. Darkcat21 20:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
No offense, but I am not sure whether you should be handing out advice regarding references. After all, that request for comment has been filed against you for citation-related reasons, among other things. And what exactly are you suggesting here? To cite information under an arbitrary "official biography" label instead of precisely stating its origin? - Cyrus XIII 21:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you're saying that I can't help people? You're banning me or whatever? It's yor problem if you don't have enough money to buy that official book and check the info written by staff from the band. Darkcat21 18:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I believe this is more suited to proceed on the talk page of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Darkcat21. - Cyrus XIII 21:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)