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If the portalpage doesn't update after editing one of the above templates, use this link --Sketchee 18:37, 23 (UTC)

The above changed recently. I've changed the links above. -->>sparkit|TALK<< 00:26, July 13, 2005 (UTC)–

The portal link template is now...

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-->>sparkit|TALK<< 00:26, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Archives 2 New Art Portal Link Template 3 Formatting visual arts articles with details on individual works 4 New Portal:Dance 5 Featured articles for March and April 6 Placement of "Did you know..." 7 Renaming 8 Rename 8.1 Voting 9 Erroneous Material 10 Comics 11 Did you know... 12 Featured articles 13 Vote for featured content 14 meltem özsavaş 15 Poetry subportal? 16 color of boxes 17 The humain body? 18 Experts needed 19 Internet Photographer 20 Zakarya By Diyary 2007\2\14 21 Added watch function 22 Remove selected quotes to Portal:Visual arts? 23 Oscar Wilde

[edit] Archives

• Archived featured articles teasers at Wikiportal:Art/Featured article archive
• Archived featured pictures at Wikiportal:Art/Featured picture archive
• Archived "Did you know?" at Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Art/Did you know archive
• Archvedd quotes at Wikiportal:Art/Quote archive

--sparkit (talk) 13:22, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Art Portal Link Template

I have created a link template at Template:artportal which can be added to pages so people can find the portal easily. I've already added it to a few category pages. Maria N 11:24, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:artportal is being deleted, with the suggestion to use Template:Portalpar. (See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/June 2005#Template:Artportal) --sparkit (talk) June 30, 2005 13:25 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting visual arts articles with details on individual works

Hello. I'd like to seek the thoughts of those interested in the visual arts on a layout I've been working on. It can be seen at (and please don't edit the layout substantially whilst discussion continues here) Rachel Whiteread. Before you laugh here's the ratonale behind it:

• Pros
  • (This is the big one for me): Often we do not have images we can use of works, so it is nice to be able to include external links within the main article body, near information about the work, rather than all together at the bottom: the reader (especially if they know how to force an open in new window/tab) can quickly bring up the image and so read and look in concert.
  • Allows section editing of individual works.
  • Allows linking to individual works from other articles, which would be great for documenting direct inspirations.
  • Provides a framework within which individual works can be detailed more easily, including use of critical responses.
  • The grey boxes provide an added visual cue that the links are external and also serve to frame the section of the page dealing with any one artwork.
• Cons
  • Breaks up the article, so the prose flow of the article is (much?) less elegant.
  • Isn't yet a recognised format in general use, has no basis in the Wikipedia:Manual of style (though, note: most subjects are not so demanding of visual content that is hard for us to create).
  • For extant articles this requires a not inconsiderable degree of disrupting the current text and may cause sulking.

The thing is, by the nature of the subject, images add so much to the experience and it appears that, at the moment, we have to see them outside of Wikipedia, so this is an attempt to work as best we can with that limitation. Obviously once pictures are available within the page, this abhorration won't be required.

If anyone else can match my pros without having the cons, then I'll be ecstatic. One option could be to have articles the way they are now and then for people who have the inclination to document individual works, we could have a separate article, ie Joe Bloggs , Works by Joe Bloggs --bodnotbod 07:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

It does seem good for explanation of some of the more important of an artists work, and its probably good for modern artists. I agree that you need some visual image in art articles. Have you considered going to a gallery which allows photography and uploading low resolution photos and using the 'art' tag like ive done here - [1] Cfitzart 09:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'd be lying to say I have. I'm a bit of an agoraphobe and I'd feel even more conspicuous taking pics of something. But obviously I'm all for Wikipedians uploading pictures of art for use in articles, that's clearly the very optimum solution. My proposal is for those (presumably very many) articles on artists we have where many significant works are not visible on the page. Anyway, I'm glad that you've been encouraging. I'll wait a while and see if anyone else comments. If there's not much feedback here, I'll tout aroundfor views further afield. Thanks for the feedback. --bodnotbod 05:19, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

images ... at the moment, we have to see them outside of Wikipedia...: Why so? On en:, following the Fair_Use regulations (cf. also: Wikipedia:Fair use), you're in the remarkable position of being able to add almost any image to non-commercial and informative websites, e.g. wikipedia.org. With most other wikipedias, severe copyright restrictions do apply indeed. I plastered Julius_Klinger with imgs and will add more, AFAIK, that's quite OK. However, it's good wikiquette to look for imgs under free licenses whenever obtainable, so you can upload them to wikimedia.org, the central media repository for all wikipedias, thus, e.g. french, chinese or german wikipedians could use your images too.

As for the template: great work, but you might want to check with regular templates for the purpose and discuss with their creators/mantainers, else it might not catch on; e.g. the grey boxes' color code is usually used for other purposes, so visitors might get confused - the wikigods don't like this.

Consider reducing line numbers:

• Some day my plinth will come - The Guardian, 27 May 2001.
  • Profile and interview through the time that Untitled (Monument) was being cast.

• guardian.co.uk, 05/27/01 Profile and interview through the time that Untitled (Monument) was being cast.

--tickle me 22:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I've looked through Wikipedia:Fair use and it would appear that you are right. I will grab some images for Rachel Whiteread, fill out the justifications on the uploads and then put the whole article up for Copyright review and see what happens.

I'd still quite like to have external links for work commentaries near the individual works, but I take your point about the grey. Do you have a page I can look at re the grey being used as a particular colour code? I wasn't aware of colours being designated for certain purposes. Wikipedia:Templates doesn't seem to say anything.

As for the number of lines on the externals I personally much prefer my verbose layout to yours. Obviously personal preference is not the way to determine these things. However, I would point to Wikipedia:External links which says If you cite an online article, try to provide as much meaningful citation information as possible which definitely appears to come down on the side of verbose.

I shall continue to use the Rachel Whiteread article as a place to aim for best practice and keep trying to encourage people to look at it and comment. I'll avoid making similar edits to other articles until it lookslike we've arrived at something that's popular and, I hope, singularly gorgeous. --bodnotbod 01:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear. I fear you've led me astray Tickle. I've uploaded Image:Ghost_by_Rachel_Whiteread.jpg. The copyright is for non-commercial use according to the source site, which leads you to think use in WP would be OK. However, see this which takes precedence. I'm also a bit concerned about your images in Julius Klinger. For example the boilerplates on Image:Meggendorfer_Blätter_27.03.1930.jpg and Image:Die_Jugend_1896.jpg, state It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of magazine covers to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question (constitute fair use) when your use of them is different to that. You do state your own reasons concerning book/poster printing but I'm not sure they're sufficient in light of that email from Jimmy Wales. I'll leave my image up and see what happens. If nothing else it's a learning experience ;o) --bodnotbod 02:27, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm busy, presently - you're not forgotten. --tickle me 16:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Portal:Dance

I've just started Portal:Dance. Is it ok to add a link to it under "performing arts"? --Roland2 15:03, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles for March and April

Shouldn't Parthenon and Sicilian Baroque belong in Portal:Architecture? – Ham 11:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome to change them, but as I understand it, architecture is an aspect of Art.--cj | talk 11:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Placement of "Did you know..."

What do you all think of moving the "Did you know..." box down to the width = 100% section so that there's less dead space down there? Rfrisbie^talk 06:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

FYI, I have now moved all of the subpages of this portal to correspond with its new location. Canderson7 ^(talk) 19:01, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I object to the move. Only the 'subportals' section and the featured articles (as discussed above, two are more relevant to architecture than art) suggest that this is an 'Arts' portal. Every other section, however, concerns visual art, and this portal is part of the Visual arts Wikiproject (such as it is). I think the name should be reverted to Portal:Art unless someone is willing to add content that would give this portal a broader coverage of 'the Arts', in which case I will create a new Portal:Visual art, based on what is currently here.

Apologies for the late response; the vote seems to have passed me by until the move was made. However, I have been a fairly regular contributor to this portal and would like my comments to be addressed. Ham 21:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't really mind one way or the other regarding the name, and you're certainly entitled to an opinion. Considering though that each name change requires an additional fifty edits (to get all the subpages in place, eliminate double redirects, etc.), I suggest that a final name be settled upon before any further action is taken. Canderson7 ^(talk) 23:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I would rather this were reverted to Portal:Art, unless anyone can make a sufficiently strong case for a portal for The Arts, i.e. covering art, music, architecture, literature, theatre, cinema, poetry, opera etc. As the Wikipedia community doesn't seem to be awfully strong on the arts I don't think there would be enough impetus for one – but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong! Ham 15:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

There is a need for a Portal:Arts if only for linking from the Main Page, where the portals are prominently placed. Portal:Art (i.e. one only covering Visual or Fine Art) is too narrow to get a link, the Arts collectively are appropriate (including Literature, Music, etc.). dml 16:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

A fair enough point. Art (visual art) is too narrow a field to rank alongside Science, Technology, Society etc. (at least, in terms of the quality of its coverage on Wikipedia), but it deserves a portal alongside literature, music and the rest. If I were to create Portal:Visual arts (that particular nomenclature because of Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts), I would like the visual art-specific elements of Portal:Arts to be moved to the new portal. This would include:

• Quotes
• Did You Know
• Wikiprojects
• Things you can do
• Most of the categories – i.e. under the first line rule

As for replacements to these relevant to the arts, I can't do that alone; a lot of the aspects of this broad topic lie outside my radar (I could manage updates to the visual arts portal though, no problem). I don't mean to come across as anal, it's just that Portal:Arts needs to have a better idea of what it's supposed to be; at the moment it doesn't seem to know whether it's an art or an arts portal. HAM 13:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

It should be the composite portal covering all of The Arts, from the visual to the physical. At present, this portals' selected article and selected picture are set to update until May. --cj | talk 23:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Support cj. For example, the Arts subsume music and any other competent action. But 'visual arts' are unnecessarily restrictive. Now what about 'participation in the arts'? What about both active participation, passive participation? --Ancheta Wis 09:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erroneous Material

I removed some material from the bottom of the Arts portal a couple weeks ago. Someone had put up a link about Green Day (something like "Green Day is teh best!!"). I took it upon myself to DELETE it. Hopefully, it won't happen again. Rdbrd82 22:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I just removed another phrase from the bottom of the intro of the Art protal. the words "I like cheese." were there under the more info link. Perhaps someone should keep an eye out for this kind of stuff? Raine 18:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

See WP:VAND, it's a constant battle that we fight using volunteers and a few bots. -Quiddity 19:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I recently click on the tab "Arts" and only appear the phrase "suck my balls". I think this is a joke from someone not very serious. Did anyone have the same problem?Iaquil 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comics

While I agree that comics should be considered art, I think they should removed from the main portal and placed under Literature. Does anyone else agree? Bitoffish 16:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• While I don't have any objection to comics being considered art either, on the (very poor) resolution I'm currently using there isn't room for more than six icons in the subportals section, so Comics would seem the obvious one to go. HAM 08:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• • Strong object on placing "comics" under "literature", strong support on playing "comics" under "visual art". All comics are visual art. Many comics are not literature. This is because it is required in the definition of comics that they always incorporate images, but it is not required that they incorporate text; adding text to an image does not make it "literature", unless The Betrayal of Images is "literature". This is why one of the synonyms for comics is "sequential art"; no synonym for comics is "art and words combined" (else children's books would also be "comics"). Why waste space with a redundancy by including both "Comics" and "Visual arts", when we still don't have many other art media listed? -Silence 18:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have just found these comments. Unfortunately discussion has been fragmented between two or three pages. Can I refer everybody to the Comics heading on Portal talk:Arts/Categories? Comics was included under both Literature and Visual arts on the request of Steve block. Previously it had been under Visual arts.

Would it be better if we had all these discussions on the Arts Project Talk page? - Kleinzach 09:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know...

The did you know section needs updating, it hasn't been updated since december 05... Sotakeit 17:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles

I just posed the same question to Portal talk:History, but it applies here too. I noticed that this portal puts the featured articles into subpages such as, Portal:Arts/Featured article/April, 2006. In March, I added to my watchlist all the portal pages that are linked on the Main Page and their subpages (linked with the small "edit" buttons), to monitor for vandalism. I just now noticed the monthly featured article subpage was different than the one I put on my watchlist in March. Because of that, vandalism to Portal:History/Featured article/April, 2006 went unnoticed for 24 hours. I probably missed some here too. I'd rather not have to come back each month to add new subpages, so would anyone object if the featured article stay in Portal:Arts/Featured article and not further subpages? Once they are archived, then I'm fine with moving them into the dated subpages. -Aude (talk | contribs) 19:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

My response would be the same as at Portal talk:History.--cj | talk 07:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vote for featured content

With the end of the month approaching fast, I've started voting processes for Featured article of the month and Featured picture of the month on Portal:Arts. Please vote or make your own nominations on the relevant pages. If there are no votes I will promote Igor Stravinsky and Image:Pantheon wider centered.jpg by default – both are proper Wikipedia featured content. One point we need to raise is whether we only allow proper featured articles and pictures (as with Portal:Geography), or whether we relax the requirements for showcasing (as with most other portals, which have Selected articles etc.). Featured articles are not a problem, but arts-related featured pictures are rather thin on the ground, and when you don't count the art or architecture ones they're non-existent. HAM 16:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] meltem özsavaş

Meltem Özsavaş (Sanatçı)

Sanatçılarımız

1991-1995 Hacettepe Üniversitesi Ankara Devlet Konservatuarı Tiyatro Bölümünden mezun oldu.

1995-1997 Ankara Devlet Tiyatrosunda profesyonel sanat hayatını sürdürdü.

Ankara Devlet Tiyatrosunda “Türkmen Düğünü”,”Küçük Nasrettin”,”Budala “ adlı oyunlarda oynadı.

1995-1997 sezonunda TRT ‘de seslendirme , drama çalışmalarında bulundu.

1997 yılında İzmit Şehir Tiyatrosunun kuruluşundan bugüne sanat hayatını halen Kocaeli Büyükşehir Belediyesi Şehir Tiyatroları’nda devam ettirmektedir.

Kocaeli Şehir Tiyatrolarında oynadığı oyunlar;

Hamlet

Sokağa Çıkma Yasağı

Nasrettin Hoca

Devamı Olan Rüya

Roberto Zucco

Üç Kuruşluk Opera

Töre

Lysistrata

Bir Şehnaz Oyun

Barış

Mutfak Kazaları

Hayat Devam Ediyor

Bahar Noktası

Robinson Dans Öğreniyor

Dallar Yeşil Olmalı

Rumuz Goncagül

Kocaeli Şehir Tiyatrosu Birimi’ni Carina Cheres ve Melih Düzenli ile birlikte kurma ve hazırlama çalışmalarında bulundu, kukla projelerinde yer aldı.

“Akademi İstanbul”da ve Kocaeli Şehir Tiyatrolarının “Tiyatro Okulu” nda eğitmenlik yaptı.

Açık Tiyatro Projeleri ve diğer oyunlarla Fransa ( Paris, Amiens, San Die,Nancie,Strousbourg ) İngiltere, Hollanda, Romanya, Makedonya’da pekçok yurtdışı turnesinde görev aldı

Özel ilgi alanları;

Modern Dans

Latin Dansları

Arjantin Tango

Flamenco

Kukla

Disiplinler Arası Performanslar ( Fotoğraf-resim-ses-beden anlatımı-dans-sinema )

son tv sinema projesi:http://www.kanal7.com.tr/content.php?id=377

hala izmitte oyunculuk yaşamına profesyonel anlamda devam etmektedir.

[edit] Poetry subportal?

Is a "Poetry" subportal really necessary with the inclusion of a "Literature" subportal? As I understand it, poetry and prose are devolved entities of Literature, so putting a "Poetry" subportal next to a "Literature" one seems to be anti-hierarchical. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.208.81.220 (talk • contribs).

[edit] color of boxes

This color... would you consider changing it to something not so pinky? - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 18:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC) I agree. Perhaps a neutral colour eg. blue? Jam01 05:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The humain body?

The humain body should be added to the art portal. with subsections of tattoo's, piercings and bodymodifications. Bodypainting? references: bmezine.com bodymod.org modblog.bmezine.com lots of good tattooist out there: Paul Booth http://www.darkimages.com/enter.asp

[edit] Experts needed

A category for articles that need expert assistance from those with knowledge of Arts has been created and articles are being sorted into the category (Category:Pages needing expert attention from the Arts Portal). I would like to propose adding a reference to this on the portal page, perhaps in the Projects section so that those with expertise in the Arts would be made aware of it and would have a link to it.

Make that Category:Pages needing expert attention from Arts experts. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 12:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Photographer

I would like to suggest a new entry for Internet Photographer. This is a person who takes a lot of photos and posts them to the internet with the purpose of sharing the photos but really to rank high on the various search engines. The internet photographer does not sell his photos but rather shares them freely for educational and non-commercial purposes. The internet photographer ordinarily does not have a brick and mortar establishment and may be seen as someone persuing a hobby. A good example of an "Internet Photographer's" home page is http://www.mikesjournal.com/ Internet photographer Mike has an image portal where he posts high ranking photographs from the google.images search engine. See http://www.mikesjournal.com/mikesjournal_greatest_hits.htm

[edit] Zakarya By Diyary 2007\2\14

Diyary 09:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)هونةرمةند زةكةريا عةبدولَلَا جيَى خؤشحالَى و شايةنى رِيَزى ئيَمةية..كة وةك بة هيَزترين هونةرمةندى كورد لةم سةردةمةدا دةتوانين شانازى ثيَوى بكةين.... ضؤن نةتةوةكانى تر دةلَيَن ئيَمة فلَانمان هةية وشانازى ثيَوة دةكةن ئيَمةش دةلَيَين (زةكةرية)مان هةية. ئةو هونةرمةندة بةتواناية هةر لةيةيةكةم ئةلبوميدا وهةر لةيةكةم سةرهةلَدانيدا طؤرانى وةهاى ثيَشكةش كرد كة هةموو ميلةتى كوردى بةلاى خؤيةوة ر~}ِاكيشت... بة دةنطيَكى بةسؤز وبة ئاوازى بةجؤش و بة هؤنراوةى ث{رِ مانا و وتنيَكى ثرِ هةست. ئةو هونةرمةندة بة هةمو هيَز وتوانايةكيَوة وبة برِينى ضةندين كؤسث و جةندين ئاستةنطى لة رِيَطا ثيرؤزةكةى ويستى بةردةوام بيَت بؤ خزمةتى هونةرى كوردى, وتا رادةيةكة زؤر باش خزمةتةكةى طةييشتوة. هونةرمةنديَكى كوردى بةو ئاستيَكى وةها طةيشتوة كة شايةنى ثلةى (ناياب)ة لة هونةر و هةستى نةتةوايتى كوردى دا......كة ضى هةندىَ خةلَكان و هةندىَ نووسةران بة ضاويَكى خةراث تةماشاى (زةكةريا) دةكةن وقسة وقسةلؤكى بؤ هةلَدةبةستن.... رةخنة طرتن لة هةض بواريَكدا باشترين فاكتةرة بؤ ثيَشكةوتنى ئةو بوارة. بؤية رةخنةطرتن لة كةسيَك ياخود لة هونةرمةنديَك شتيَكى باشة بؤ ئةوةى ئةو كةسة يا ئةو هونةرمةندة بةرةو ثيَش برِوات وئةو هةلَانةى كة هةيةتى ضاكى بكاتةوة. بةلَام هةندىَ كةس رةخنةى كويَرانة ئةطرن ...وبوختان ئةبةستن و خةريكى ناو زرِاندنى ئةم و ئةون. جا هةر كة ئةلبومى يةكةمى هونةرمةند (زةكةريا) بلَاوبووةوة...ضةندين دمطؤ و قسةى نارِةوايان بؤ هةلَبةست, و هةروةها كة ئةلبومى (رؤذطار و تيليناز وطةنجى ثير) بلَاوبووةوة ئةوةندة قسةى تريان بؤ هةلَبةست....بة بيانووى ئةوةى كة ئاوازى طؤرانيَكانى توركيية و لاسايى هونةرمةندانى دةوروبةر دةكاتةوة و ضةندةها قسةى تر......... وهةندىَ لة نووسةران بة هةليان زانى كة بة كةيفى خؤيان قسة بكةن و شتى درؤ بلَاوبكةنةوة لة سةر حيسابى ئازادى رِادةرِبرِي وئازادى بير وهزر. وابيريان كردةوة كة وادةى ئةوة هاتووة فوو لة تؤزى سةر قةلَةمة نوك شكاوةكانيان يا كيبؤردة سةقةتةكانيان بكةن(ئةوة ئةطةر لة كيبورد بزانن) و دةستكةن بة نوسينى فيكر و بيرة جامبووةكانيان. ئةوانةى كة هةلَسان وقيت بوونةوة و دةستيان كرد بة نووسينى قسةى هةلةق ومةلةق دةربارةى طؤرانيَكانى (زةكةريا) ودةربارةى خودى (زةكةريا) خؤى, ئةوانةى كة ئةيان وت و ئيَستاش بةردةوامن و هةر دةلَيَن (زةكةريا) طؤرانيَكانى وا ئاوازى توركيية و لاسايى كةسانى تر دةكاتةوة..... ئةوانةى كة ثيَيان واية زةكةريا شتى باشى نةكرددوة و كة طواية نارِازين هونةرمةنديَكى كوردى لادا لةسةر ريَطاى هونةرى كوردى........ زؤر زؤر ليَيان بىَ طومانم كة خؤيان هةميشة سةرقالَن بة طويَرِاطرتن لة طؤرانى عةرةبى و توركى و فارسى و تةملشاكردنى جل و بةرطيان و شيَوةى قسةكردن وهةلَس وكةوتيان و..............هتد. لة راستيدا ئةوانة هةر لة هونةر نازانن و ئةو قسانة بلَاو دةكةنةوة كة عةلةساس (ئيَمةش:) بيرورِامان هةية و وا خؤيان ثيشان دةدةن كة خةمخؤرى هونةرى كوردين. و من دلَنيايان دةكةمةوة كة ئةو قسانة زةرةريان زؤرترة لة قازانجيان, و شتىَ تريش هةية......... لة رِاستيدا ئةو نووسةرانة دةيانةوىَ ئةم ووتةية بةجيَبيَنن كة دةلَىَ: (خالف...تعرف) بؤية ئةو قسانة بلَاو دةكةنةوة كة خةلَك بلَىَ (فلَان واى وت وفيسان واىوت) تا لاى خةلَك ناويان هةبىَ......ئةطةر نا خؤ طؤرانى بيَذى كوردمان هةية كة طؤرانى يا مةقامى (توركى يا فارسى يا عةربى) دةلَيَن ياخود ئاوازةكانيان بة كار دةهيَنن.(هةر طؤرانيَكة بةو زمانة دةلَيَن يا هةر ئاوازةكةيان بردووة, بةلَام زةكةريا تا ئيَستا شتى واى نةكردووة و باوةرِناكةم بيشيكات). ئةى بؤ يةكىَ لةو نووسةرانة باسى ئةو حالَةتانة ناكةن و يةك دوو وشة لة سةريان نانووسن؟!!!!!!! ئةو قسةية طةواهيية لةسةر ئةوةى كة ئةو نووسةرانة شتيَكيان هةية برامبةر بة خودى (زةكةريا). يان ئةو نووسةرانة بة خؤرِايى دةيانةوىَ باشترين هونةرمةندى كورد بشكيَننةوة. و وا بةباش دةزانن كة كةسيَكى كوردى نةبىَ ناو دةركا و سةرهةلَدا و هونةرى كوردى بة جيهان بناسيَنىَ......يان ئةوةتا بة كوردا نابينن كة كةسيَكى وةك _(زةكةريا)ى تيا دةركةوىَ, بؤية دةلَيَن بةرهةمةكانى ياخود ئاوازةكانى هى خؤى نيية و ثشت بةم و بةو دةبةستىَ و زؤر شتى لةم بابةتةى بة دوادةكةن. شتيَكى زؤر طرنطتر..... ئةو كةسانةى يا ئةو نووسةرانةى كة قسةى وا بلَاو دةكةونة كة خؤيان بة خةمخؤر و دؤستى هونةرى كوردي دةزانن... ئةو كاتةى كة هونةرمةنديَكى فارس يا تورك يا عةرةب ئاوازيَكى كوردى دةبا و تيَكستيَكى زمانةكةى خؤى بؤ دا ئةنا و بة ناوى خؤيةوة يا بةناوى ئاوازدانةريَكى خؤيةوة بلَاوى دةكاتةوة, يان هةر طؤرانيَكة بة كوردى دةلَىَ و ئةيكاتة طؤرانى خؤى هى خؤى. ئةى بؤ كةسىَ باسى ئةمة ناكا و ئةو نووسةرانة ليَى بىَ دةنطن و خؤيان كةرِ دةكةن, بةلَكو هةر طالَتةيان ثيَى دىَ. و نموونةشم زؤر زؤرة لةو هونةرمةندانة كة خؤيان بة هونةرمةندى ئاست بةرز دةزانن و ئةمة ثيشةيانة. زةكةريا هةر ئةو لاوة كوردةية كة ريَطايةكى كردةوة لة هونةرى كورديدا بةرةو هونةرى جيهانى.دوا بةدواى ئةو, هونةرمةندى تريش هةلَكةون و ريَطا ثيرؤزةكةى ئةو بطرن. خؤ ئةطةر زةكةريا هيضى نةكردبىَ و هيضى ثيَشكةش بة هونةرى كوردى نةكردبىَ, لاى كةمةوة واى لةو طةنجانة كردووة كة جاران بيست و ضوار سةعاتةكةى خوا خةريكى طويَطرتن بوون لة طؤرانى فارسى و عةرةبى و توركى, (ئةطةر هةموويان نةبن خؤ كةميانى كردووةتةوة) و واى ليَيان كردووة نةك هةر طوىَ لة طؤرانيَكانى خؤى رابطرن بةلَكو طوىَ لة طؤرانى هونةرمةندة كوردةكانى تريش رابطرن كة ئةمرِؤكة ماشةلَلَا زؤر زؤرن و لة ئاستيَكى طةلىَ بةرزن. و بؤ ئيَمة بةسة كة كاتيَك طةنجيَك بيةوىَ طورانى بلَىَ بؤ خؤى لةجياتى طؤرانييةكى عةربى يا توركى يا فارسى بلَىَ (دةلَىَ: كىَ وةك تؤ دةبىَ لةم كوردستانة.......كورِ وكالَ بؤ تؤ هةمووى شةرِيانة), ياخود (دةلَىَ: ثيَشمةرطة كوردستانىَ رذيانة نيَو مةيدانىَ.........ناظى وان ضون ديروكا دةنط ظةداية لة جيهانىَ) ياخود (دةلَىَ:خانم لة دةستم هةلَثرة تاوىَ....شايية و كورديية و هيض شةرمى ناوىَ).

[edit] Added watch function

I added a watch function to each box, next to the edit - if there are any problems or you want it changed back just ask sbandrews 23:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remove selected quotes to Portal:Visual arts?

The current selected quote, which has remained unchanged for months, is by an artist who doesn't even have a Wikipedia article. I think this section has had its day on P:A and am proposing to move it to the Visual arts portal. As P:VA rotates content at random, the rankly more interesting quotes currently languishing in the archive would get the regular airing they deserve. The entire section is a leftover from the days when this was an portal for art rather than the arts; let's move it to its proper home. [talk to the] HAM 20:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oscar Wilde

Whenever I see that image, the first thing I think is Uncyclopedia. I wonder if it is natural or not :)--Scheibenzahl 02:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm, same with me. How strange, since Uncylopedia never "quotes" Oscar Wilde. — Malcolm^{Use the schwartz!} 18:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)