Talk:Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation

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There is no such rank as podpraporschik in russian military, look here: Talk:Russian military ranks#Podpraporshchik/Bootsman. --DimaY2K 16:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

The US rank equivalents need to be fixed for both the Army and the Air Force. There are only three US junior or company grade officers, not four as in the Russian Army. This will result in one of the Russian officer ranks having no US equivalent, but I'm not sure which would be the best Russian rank to skip. Also, the rank insignia of two gold bars does not exist in the US military. The proper title and insignia for US company grade officers are:

Captain: 2 silver bars

First Lieutanant: 1 sliver bar

Second Lieutenant: 1 gold bar

Nicholas F 05:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I Agree with you. US Army dosen't have 2 gold bars insignia and dosen't have a rank of Lieutenant look here. Also russian rank of Major General should not be compared with US rank of Brigadier General. I have made the changes but they were reverted. --DimaY2K 07:54, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I know the changes with the ranks as "First Lieutenant, Lieutenant, and Second Lieutenant" are wrong, but I did not do that. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 00:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

What are two gold bars doing here, THEY ARE NOT APART OF THE U.S. MILITARY!! IT IS A NON EXISTANT RANK, I DID NOT DO THIS!!!! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

There seem to be two problems with the insignia that I believe was copied from http://www.uniforminsignia.net/index.php?p=state&id=123

First, the isnignia for a General of the Army actualy belongs to a militsiya officer, as the color of the shoulder board is grey. It's probably not much of a problem because officer insignia for MVD is very much similar to the army and Internal Troops one, but enlisted insignia differs substantially, not to mention that latter are technically the military while the militsiya is the police forces.

Then, the golden parade shoulder board of a Major has an all-forces emblem, which is not necessary at all (only used by medics and justice generals wear shoulder board insignia, because sleeve insignia has one same emblem for all generals). But the white shoulder board of a colonel has no emblem, which is not right because white/green shirts are missing sleeve insingia so the emblem moves to the shoulder boards. --DmitryKo 16:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Please make the notes under the pictures more accurate. --Nixer 10:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? I tried to be as accurate as I could - if you think there are errors besides the above-mentioned ones, feel free to correct them... --DmitryKo 14:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

This sentence is outdated. Это касалось пространственного расположения, но теперь всё выглядит нормально.--Nixer 14:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rank comparison

I think we should remove comperison between russian and american ranks since it is not the purpuse of this article, and if someone wants to do it they should create partucular article. --DimaY2K 10:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I also think so. Conscious 09:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Disagree; see discussion at the WPMILHIST Russian and Soviet task force discussion page. Buckshot06 00:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm also inclined to disagree. In fact I would suggest that the comparison is also expanded to the ranks of the UK/Commonwealth in order to give a broader base of comparison. Including the US and UK would pretty much cover the most significant military rank systems.

Xdamr^talk 23:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)