Talk:Armenian nobility

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This page is a bit of a fan article but it contains a lot of good information, so if the POV can be neutralised (and if it doesn't have copyright problems), it could make the basis of a good article. -- Derek Ross | Talk 22:35, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome, melik Vrej Atabekian, and thank you for contributing this informative article. It fills a gap in Wikipedia's coverage of Armenia and so it is very welcome. However please note that Wikipedia can only accept it, if you contribute it under the terms of the Gnu Free Documentation license or some similar "copyleft" licence. If you want to establish your original authorship, I strongly recommend that you create an account using the "create account/log in" link on your screen. This will mark you as an author of articles that you create while logged in and make it unnecessary for you to add your name and the copyright symbol to these articles since the Wikipedia software will record that you have contributed them automatically in the "edit history". -- Derek Ross | Talk 02:31, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Ross,

Apologies for my late reply. I am new in Wikipedia and had no idea that there are discussions here. I am also not quite sure how to participate in discussion; I assumed that editing is the right way to add my comment.

First, thank you for accepting my article. I am not sure I understand some of your comments though. What did you mean by saying that my article "is a bit of a fan article"? I thought that encyclopedia normally contains a variety of diverse information, and almost each piece is interesting to a specific audience. Concerning making “the basis of a good article”, this article has been published in two academic periodicals (both available on-line). I also do not know what "the POV" is and how to neutralize it.

As to the copyright, I followed your advice and got registered. This, however, did not automatically add my name as the author of the article. Could you please advise me on the follow-up steps?

Best regards,

Vrej

I will attempt to assist Mr. Atabekian with the "cleanup" of the article. --Eupator 18:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Azat and its root

This word is unlikely to be derived from Old Persian Yazata. In fact, in its present form, it was used in Middle Persian (Azat) and is equivalent to Modern Persian (azad). It precisely means "freeborn". In fact "Azatan" were a class in Sassanid nobility structure, above 'Dehgans' (small land owners) but below "Vuzurgan" (members of the large aristocratic families). It is a guess, albeit an educated guess, that they controlled holdings equal to one or more villages (enough holdings to support and arm one Azat cavalry man and up to five retainers, equal to European men-at-arms). Dehgans had enough land to arm just themselves and may be family members (usually a father and his sons). Vuzurgan were expected to rise a whole contingent from their holdings, and many had private feudal armies. In that sense, Armenian Azat, should mean something similar to this parthian/Sassanid concept. mrjahan Nov 3 2006.

[edit] Internal Division

While the words arxatos, raja, and roi refer to human beings (those who rule), the words regia and regnum do not. These latter refer to the fact of ruling or to what is ruled. These Latin words should be replaced with the Latin parallel term "rex."70.161.208.216 14:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)