Talk:Arkenstone

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[edit] Silmaril

The speculated to be a Silmaril theory seems sort of iffy. If the Arkenstone was actually a Silmaril it would have been far too valuable to simply bury with Thorin's corpse. It should have been immediately recognizable as such, especially by Gandalf...we're talking a Silmaril here not just some stupid glowing gem they were legendary for their incredible beauty. They're probably the most sought after items in Middle Earth, even the Valar wanted them...although for nonselfish reasons...Jarwulf 20:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and indeed the fate of each of the three Silmarils was described in the texts. One was with Earendil, one lost in the ocean, and one was tossed into a fiery fissure. The latter two were specifically said to be lost until Dagor Dagorath when Arda would be broken and the two stones retrieved from earth and sea. That being said, when Tolkien translated a portion of the early Silmarillion into Old English he used the related term 'Eorclanstánas' to translate 'Silmarils'. Thus it is sometimes suggested that the Arkenstone of The Hobbit might be 'thematically' inspired by the Silmarils... similar to the way that the Elvenking (later Thranduil) was derived from Thingol of Doriath. --CBD _☎ ^✉ 00:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)